Poll

Which one needs a buff the most?

Anti-Armor Ship
3 (9.7%)
Armor Booster
2 (6.5%)
Armor Rotter
0 (0%)
Armor Ship
3 (9.7%)
Ether Jet Tractor
2 (6.5%)
Gravity Ripper
1 (3.2%)
Impulse Emitter
1 (3.2%)
Infiltrator
1 (3.2%)
Sentinel Frigate
2 (6.5%)
Space Tank
1 (3.2%)
Spider
2 (6.5%)
Teleport Battle Station
3 (9.7%)
Vorticular Cutlass
9 (29%)
Zenith Electric Bomber
0 (0%)
Zenith Polarizer
1 (3.2%)
None of these need a buff
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 0

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Offline keith.lamothe

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Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« on: February 11, 2012, 10:04:48 am »
List came from nominations here, if you're curious.

Anyway, which one needs a positive rebalance the most?  Some creativity in applying the buff will be used if it seems appropriate, but in general we aren't looking to add crazy new mechanics or overhaul existing ones during this timeframe.  Definitely thinking about the armor discussion, for example, but for now armor as a mechanic is unlikely to see sweeping changes because that's better suited to a time when we're working full-bore on AIW.

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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 10:12:18 am »
With their roles being so smilar, a vote for the armor ship needs a similar change to voting for the space tanking

: I.E. They need a ton of armor.
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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 10:20:58 am »
I voted for the Space Tank, but I agree with the general consensus of the community - Armor in general needs to be looked at.

I would really like to see Space Tanks be actual TANKS.  Even if you had to lower the cap by half of what it is and make them super slow, super powerful, and super hard-to-kill, I think that would fit the theme much better, and would make up for how expensive they are.

Ideally you (or the AI) would need some heavy anti-armor weaponry to even put a dent in them (like a real tank).

edit: Immunity to insta-kill would be ideal as well.
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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2012, 11:34:34 am »
I voted for the armor booster, but for the same reasons as the previous posters. Make armor logarithmic!
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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2012, 11:38:32 am »
space tanks need a boost? no way! I got them as starting bonus ship in my current 7/7 game and i find them to be very useful already. their dps is higher than bombers and they also get a bonus against bombers, which has proven it's use to me. Only problem is that they cost to much metal to really be able to put it to good use early game.
I will vote for the polarizer. I don't mind that it's only usable in certain cases, I actually like that (like the IRE). The problem is that even against ships the polarizer is supposed to do good at, it's still doing average in my humble opinion. but then again, I haven't used them very often, so I could be wrong.

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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2012, 12:31:16 pm »
How are snipers not on the list?
They seriously seem useless to me, aside from the old use of clearing out forcefield-ed areas before attacking them with bombers (darn fighters anyway)

But now they cant go through forcefields, I see no use for them. Tiny damage, Certainly the range is nice, but without the ability to bypass forcefields, or enginedamage (perhaps we need spider-sniper fleet ships, lolz) I cannot see any reason to use them. (aside from boosting your fleet cap)

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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2012, 12:33:40 pm »
How are snipers not on the list?
The process they developed for not being here was fairly simple: they didn't get nominated :)
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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2012, 12:51:24 pm »
I keep getting a validation error when I try to vote.  kinda wierd.
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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2012, 01:12:05 pm »
I keep getting a validation error when I try to vote.  kinda wierd.
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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2012, 01:15:14 pm »
I held back on voting for armor ships, armor rotters, and (if they were present) polarizors, as those are really just suffering from a bigger problem, the current mismatch of scale between shot damage and armor rating. Once that is fixed, they should be fine.

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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 01:41:39 pm »
I keep getting a validation error when I try to vote.  kinda wierd.
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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2012, 01:42:42 pm »
Yep, full logout/login didn't help either.
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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2012, 01:49:37 pm »
I voted Ether Jets simply because I can't find a place for them at all.

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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2012, 02:02:57 pm »
space tanks need a boost? no way! I got them as starting bonus ship in my current 7/7 game and i find them to be very useful already. their dps is higher than bombers and they also get a bonus against bombers, which has proven it's use to me. Only problem is that they cost to much metal to really be able to put it to good use early game.


I respectfully disagree on their firepower. Their generalized dps is great then bombers, but against their specialties they do quite less damage.
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Re: Poll: Worst Ship Of The (time interval) Award
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 02:34:53 pm »
yes, a bonus of 3.2 instead of 6, indeed. But that doesn't make this ship type useless and certainly not the worst. It could use some sort of better durability or decrease in cost, but there are other ships doing a lot worse right now.