Poll: what most needs attention for 6.0? (Or: let's see if we can break polls!)

[Draco18s]

+1 as well for awesome devs.  I recently read this quote on the Torchlight forum and thought of AI Wars immediately, and laughed.

Every game I have ever seen which involves constant nerfs/buffs is 100x worse 2 years down the road than at launch.

What version of AI War do you consider "launch" though?

Version 1.0 was before my time, but Version 2.0 was downright awful.  Units took 15 minutes to cross a system, and other such issues.

[Volatar]

What version of AI War do you consider "launch" though?

Version 1.0 was before my time, but Version 2.0 was downright awful.  Units took 15 minutes to cross a system, and other such issues.

2.0 was when the game hit Steam. That's probably the best bet for a launch date.

[Draco18s]

2.0 was when the game hit Steam. That's probably the best bet for a launch date.

I bought it on that other platform.  Uh.  Impulse.  They handed me a $5 off "any game on Impulse" coupon and my friend said "Get AI War, you can add it to steam later with the same key."

[Volatar]

2.0 was when the game hit Steam. That's probably the best bet for a launch date.

I bought it on that other platform.  Uh.  Impulse.  They handed me a $5 off "any game on Impulse" coupon and my friend said "Get AI War, you can add it to steam later with the same key."

I bought it on GamersGate for like, 15% off myself back in the 1.0 days.

I kinda wanna find the 1.0 installer again just for amusements sake.

[Draco18s]

I kinda wanna find the 1.0 installer again just for amusements sake.

I've got a 3.4 installer bookmarked, in the event I can ever convince someone to play with me.

[keith.lamothe]

Ok, I think this one's settled; here's the top 10:

Mechanics: make threatballs do something else if they don't attack after a while   24 
Balance: Making multiple-ingress-points (including sattelite worlds) not so much less viable than singe-chokepoint   21 
UI: Make hybrid's displayed mark number reflect their maturity   17 
UI: show icons for devourer and trader on galaxy map   16 
Balance: Another pass on champion modules   15 
UI: support subfolders for save/load   15 
Balance: make human ships tractored by AI ships not trigger deepstrike threat or raid engines   14 
UI: reorder turrets on buy menu so basic, mlrs, missile, and laser are together   14 
Balance: reduce MarkIII scout knowledge cost   13 
UI: be able to give attack (and set-preferred-target) orders by right-clicking the planetary summary box   13 

Not sure I'll get through all those before taking nominations for another poll (there was some controversy over whether certain ones should be done, for one thing), but we'll see

[TechSY730]

Ok, I think this one's settled; here's the top 10:

Mechanics: make threatballs do something else if they don't attack after a while   24 
Balance: Making multiple-ingress-points (including sattelite worlds) not so much less viable than singe-chokepoint   21 
UI: Make hybrid's displayed mark number reflect their maturity   17 
UI: show icons for devourer and trader on galaxy map   16 
Balance: Another pass on champion modules   15 
UI: support subfolders for save/load   15 
Balance: make human ships tractored by AI ships not trigger deepstrike threat or raid engines   14 
UI: reorder turrets on buy menu so basic, mlrs, missile, and laser are together   14 
Balance: reduce MarkIII scout knowledge cost   13 
UI: be able to give attack (and set-preferred-target) orders by right-clicking the planetary summary box   13 

Not sure I'll get through all those before taking nominations for another poll (there was some controversy over whether certain ones should be done, for one thing), but we'll see

So, since some of these are very non-specific (especially the top two), where are you going to be pulling ideas to make this concrete?
Mantis suggestions? A new thread? A new thread where we can nominate ideas and/or mantis suggestions?

[keith.lamothe]

So, since some of these are very non-specific (especially the top two), where are you going to be pulling ideas to make this concrete?
Mantis suggestions? A new thread? A new thread where we can nominate ideas and/or mantis suggestions?

Actually there's already been a thread over the past couple days on the ingress thing that's generated a couple things I think will work, and I already have an idea for the threatball thing.

Most of the rest is pretty concrete.  But there are two things:

Balance: Another pass on champion modules   15

The numbers are already following a balance model, so I'd like some more specific feedback on what exactly needs doing here.  Champions too strong in general?  Too weak?  Certain modules seem almost always more useful than others?  Certain ones always less useful?

I'll start a separate thread for that one.

And:

Balance: make human ships tractored by AI ships not trigger deepstrike threat or raid engines   14 

Not the easiest thing to implement (I believe both of those go off ship counts, and do not pay attention to individual particulars), but I can do it.  The other thing is that some players (at least one, I suppose) don't want this change.

So I'll start a yes/no poll on that one separately.

[Hearteater]

Maybe on the last we could just get a CTRL "Ships scapped if forced into enemy system".  So you don't need to worry about triggering AI things that react to player ships because they self-scrap the moment they would enter the AI system.  Of course, the disadvantage is if a Tractor Platform pulls 100 ships through a worm hole, I could lose 100 ships instantly in a situation were I could have fought them free without triggering anything.

[TechSY730]

So, since some of these are very non-specific (especially the top two), where are you going to be pulling ideas to make this concrete?
Mantis suggestions? A new thread? A new thread where we can nominate ideas and/or mantis suggestions?

Actually there's already been a thread over the past couple days on the ingress thing that's generated a couple things I think will work, and I already have an idea for the threatball thing.

Wait, what thread?
If I had know about it, I would of shamelessly linked some mantis issue about this topic on it.

EDIT:
I'm assuming you have seen the mantis issues suggesting changing the firepower cutoff ratios, have threat randomly attack anyways, finding a new planet to attack after a while, among many of mantis suggestions?
If not, I would be happy to link them.

[Draco18s]

So, since some of these are very non-specific (especially the top two), where are you going to be pulling ideas to make this concrete?
Mantis suggestions? A new thread? A new thread where we can nominate ideas and/or mantis suggestions?

Actually there's already been a thread over the past couple days on the ingress thing that's generated a couple things I think will work, and I already have an idea for the threatball thing.

Wait, what thread?
If I had know about it, I would of shamelessly linked some mantis issue about this topic on it.

EDIT:
I'm assuming you have seen the mantis issues suggesting changing the firepower cutoff ratios, have threat randomly attack anyways, finding a new planet to attack after a while, among many of mantis suggestions?
If not, I would be happy to link them.

Wave Size and Timing based on Points of Ingress

[TechSY730]

So, since some of these are very non-specific (especially the top two), where are you going to be pulling ideas to make this concrete?
Mantis suggestions? A new thread? A new thread where we can nominate ideas and/or mantis suggestions?

Actually there's already been a thread over the past couple days on the ingress thing that's generated a couple things I think will work, and I already have an idea for the threatball thing.

Wait, what thread?
If I had know about it, I would of shamelessly linked some mantis issue about this topic on it.

EDIT:
I'm assuming you have seen the mantis issues suggesting changing the firepower cutoff ratios, have threat randomly attack anyways, finding a new planet to attack after a while, among many of mantis suggestions?
If not, I would be happy to link them.

Wave Size and Timing based on Points of Ingress

So far, that seems to be mostly about waves. I'm talking about free threat that is already outside of a player controlled system.

[Hearteater]

The ingress thread linked is for the "Balance: Making multiple-ingress-points (including sattelite worlds) not so much less viable than singe-chokepoint".  There isn't a recent thread on threat blobs for the "Mechanics: make threatballs do something else if they don't attack after a while" issue. 

[TechSY730]

So, since some of these are very non-specific (especially the top two), where are you going to be pulling ideas to make this concrete?
Mantis suggestions? A new thread? A new thread where we can nominate ideas and/or mantis suggestions?

Actually there's already been a thread over the past couple days on the ingress thing that's generated a couple things I think will work, and I already have an idea for the threatball thing.

Wait, what thread?
If I had know about it, I would of shamelessly linked some mantis issue about this topic on it.

EDIT:
I'm assuming you have seen the mantis issues suggesting changing the firepower cutoff ratios, have threat randomly attack anyways, finding a new planet to attack after a while, among many of mantis suggestions?
If not, I would be happy to link them.

Actually, I will go ahead and post the "psuedo parent" issue, so you can see the related issues all in one place:
http://www.arcengames.com/mantisbt/view.php?id=9465

[keith.lamothe]

There's probably one on a mantis issue somewhere if I took the time to look but I'm trying to stay in the code: any saves out there with big threatballs lying around that could be doing something more useful?