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Do you enjoy knowledge gathering in the LATE GAME?  How do you think it should be changed.

I enjoy knowledge gathering, but it should be easier.
3 (9.4%)
I enjoy knowledge gathering, and nothing should change.
9 (28.1%)
I enjoy knowledge gathering, but it should be harder.
9 (28.1%)
I do NOT enjoy knowledge gathering, it should be easier.
2 (6.3%)
I do NOT enjoy knowledge gathering, it should be harder.
2 (6.3%)
I do NOT enjoy knowledge gathering, it should be automated so I never have to think about it.
7 (21.9%)

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Voting closed: June 12, 2010, 02:40:55 pm

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Offline Buttons840

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POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« on: May 22, 2010, 02:40:55 pm »
Please direct all discussion to this thread:  http://arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,5522.0.html

I emphasis that this poll is about knowledge gathering in the LATE GAME.  "Late game" being the time when you begin thinking about winning and finishing the game.  Compared to the "early game" where you are thinking about getting an economy and important technologies, etc.

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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 03:02:47 pm »
what about " i don't know what knowledge gathering is" option ;D

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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2010, 03:13:13 pm »
you should make a poll called "what do you think of resource management"

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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2010, 03:13:41 pm »
or scouting, or formation or the other things there are

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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2010, 04:39:17 pm »
This poll lacks one option - I would enjoy knowledge mechanics revamp :D

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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2010, 04:46:45 pm »
Imo, I think knowledge gathering is ok. :)
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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2010, 09:25:08 pm »
This poll lacks one option - I would enjoy knowledge mechanics revamp :D
Agreed. I would vote for "Knowledge raiding is as exciting as watching paint dry." It's like any repetitive task: exciting at first, satisfying when you get the hang of it, tolerable as you realise you've mastered it and finally boring as you get sick of it.

Referring to the other thread, the "constant battle" k-raids are fun and sometimes necessary (early game), but the raid mechanic desperately needs to "grow" with the rest of the game. Research automation that emerges during the mid-game would help to shift focus back to going for strategic targets.

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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2010, 11:10:26 pm »
Then i suppose everybody likes fixing their energy balance way better than paint drying

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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2010, 11:11:25 pm »
where as knowledge gathering is one of the most interesting things in the game since you either sneak it, or neuter the planet, excitement levels just under cpas and final assault (regular neutering not even close)

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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 12:52:08 am »
managing energy balance is fairly simple... you can toggle reactors on and off from the popup menu when you click on reactors. The shift key I believe.


and while your at it, stop doubleposting. Its annoying me. There is an edit button for a very good reason. Use it.


Final note on the matter - I heard it mentioned somewhere that [knowledge raids] are 10 minutes of sheer terror, punctuated by 10 hours of boredom. Make knowledge raids less boredom.
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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 01:46:34 pm »
I had suggested a few ways of increasing the terror of k-raiding (perhaps quite a bit, in late game), but general opinion was against that.  Not that this will stop me ;)  But I imagine the more dramatic stuff would be optional, at least.
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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2010, 06:14:39 pm »
perhaps instead of just neutering the whole planet, neuter a small space and send your science lab like it's really done with anti snipers, then feel the 10 minutes of terror without the boredom ;)

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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 06:23:16 pm »
Folks, let's keep things civil; they've been drifting away from that these last couple days.  Personal conflict should be worked out in private (pm/email/etc) where possible.
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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2010, 10:18:09 am »
Buttons840 (and others voting "I do NOT enjoy knowledge gathering, it should be automated so I never have to think about it."), my understanding is that you don't find it fun late game even if the combat were made challenging (the super-terminal-esque suggestions, either local or from an adjacent system).  That's fine, I was just surprised by that response since I figured intensive combat was fun (particularly the from-adjacent system version, thus cutting down on the number of individual engagements).  If not large fleet battles, can you tell me what parts of the gameplay you actually DO enjoy?
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Re: POLL: What do you think of knowledge gathering?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2010, 10:48:11 am »
Buttons840 (and others voting "I do NOT enjoy knowledge gathering, it should be automated so I never have to think about it."), my understanding is that you don't find it fun late game even if the combat were made challenging (the super-terminal-esque suggestions, either local or from an adjacent system).  That's fine, I was just surprised by that response since I figured intensive combat was fun (particularly the from-adjacent system version, thus cutting down on the number of individual engagements).  If not large fleet battles, can you tell me what parts of the gameplay you actually DO enjoy?

I enjoy pretty much all gameplay aspects I think the main issue (at least for me) is the grind more or less in the mid-late game which I described in my thread about smaller maps & playability (http://arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,5533.0.html).