Poll: Should fleet caps be made the same across all marks?

[Hearteater]

This will also make divisible-by-8 caps possible.

[keith.lamothe]

This will also make divisible-by-8 caps possible.

That's what I'm currently working on

[Lancefighter]

I think 200 should be a good number for that.

[Kahuna]

This will also make divisible-by-8 caps possible.

Not possible atm? How is it impossible?

[TechSY730]

This will also make divisible-by-8 caps possible.

Not possible atm? How is it impossible?

It is possible with the current system, but multipliers would have to be cleverly picked such that if Mk. I cap is a multiple of 8, then Mk_cap_multiplier * Mk. I cap would be guaranteed to be a multiple of 8 as well. And 5 of those would have to be found. Possible? Yes, but very tricky.
The new system sidesteps this complexity.

[keith.lamothe]

This will also make divisible-by-8 caps possible.

Not possible atm? How is it impossible?

Fleet ship caps, except in the next version and onwards, are multiplied by 1/0.9/0.8/0.7/0.5 for marks I/II/III/IV/V.  Is there even a number that, when multiplied by each of those, is always still divisible by 8?

That's part of the reason for removing the multipliers, the other being making higher mark fleet ships more attractive choices for the player (and bigger implements with which to pound them, incidentally).

[Diazo]

* Diazo looks at this change.

* Diazo looks at the wiki.

* Diazo sadfaces

Oh well, was going to have to redo almost everything anyway for the new expansion, this will make sure all the changes get caught.

For anyone else working on the wiki, don't bother tweaking any of the fleet ship pages, I'll set up an automatic script for those.

D.

[keith.lamothe]

Uh, yea, there are a lot of numbers changes.

For the record, there are currently 62 bonus ship types (3 more planned for the expansion that aren't done yet).  All were touched in this, though the ones that aren't affected by unit-cap-scale (spire stealth battleships, etc) were touched less since their caps didn't change.  Just some internal math to make it easier to make changes based on cap-stats instead of individual-stats.

[Cinth]

This will also make divisible-by-8 caps possible.

Not possible atm? How is it impossible?

Fleet ship caps, except in the next version and onwards, are multiplied by 1/0.9/0.8/0.7/0.5 for marks I/II/III/IV/V.  Is there even a number that, when multiplied by each of those, is always still divisible by 8?

That's part of the reason for removing the multipliers, the other being making higher mark fleet ships more attractive choices for the player (and bigger implements with which to pound them, incidentally).

Yep. 80 * n. Gives 10/9/8/7/5.

[keith.lamothe]

Yep. 80 * n. Gives 10/9/8/7/5.

I knew there'd be someone around here that would do the thinking for me

So, I suppose it would have worked if I'd made all fleet ship caps multiples of 80, but that might be a little too coarse

[Diazo]

Well, it would have reduced it to normal cap (80) and high-cap (160) I guess.

Low-cap ships were just out of luck. 

D.

[Cinth]

Well, it would have reduced it to normal cap (80) and high-cap (160) I guess.

Low-cap ships were just out of luck. 

D.

Not really. Divide by 4 for low and by 8 for ultra-low.

Yep. 80 * n. Gives 10/9/8/7/5.

I knew there'd be someone around here that would do the thinking for me

So, I suppose it would have worked if I'd made all fleet ship caps multiples of 80, but that might be a little too coarse

Just so we are clear though, I will not do any programing for you.