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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 03:49:49 pm »
Wait, it has to do with ATI?

Have you tried using it with poni*is shot*

(For those who do not get this in-joke, the origin is at http://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,10131.0.html. Read and bask in the insanity ;))

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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 03:58:39 pm »
Wait, it has to do with ATI?

Have you tried using it with poni*is shot*

(For those who do not get this in-joke, the origin is at http://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,10131.0.html. Read and bask in the insanity ;))
Pretty much exactly the same idea occurred to me :)

But basically the recent change is that we backported the stuff that fixed the pony-addition in AVWW.  AIW never suffered from it really, but I wouldn't expect the antidote to cause the disease.

But, as we learned in the thread you linked, a predictable reality and ATI cards sometimes have nothing to do with one another.
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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 04:00:44 pm »
A few weeks ago I finally bought a dedicated GPU.

Its a passively cooled cheap ATI Radeon HD 5400 Series. 512 mb that will never break for 30 dollars sounds good to me.

I've yet to noticed anything "bad" happen, but its hard to judge since even an inefficient dedicated graphics card is better then none at all.

EDIT: To this very day, once in a blue moon I mentally chuckle and think "ponies". All the better they relate in this case.
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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2012, 04:36:01 pm »
Ah yes, ponies.  The bane of my existence.  I watched so many MLP videos during AVWW beta.

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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 04:39:05 pm »
I've seen some pretty incredible "I must have entered the Twilight Zone without noticing it" bugs in enterprise db/web programming, but I think the ATI ponies may well take the cake.

Some of the other bugs were actually stranger when I got to the bottom of them, but none of them appeared that strange.
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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2012, 07:38:38 am »
For me the game works just fine but it seems to be a bit laggier. Lower FPS.
Actually never mind. I just tested the game with a bigger fleet and it's almost unplayable. Putting ships in Transporters "fixes" the lag.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 08:13:31 am by Kahuna »
set /A diff=10
if %diff%==max (
   set /A me=:)
) else (
   set /A me=SadPanda
)
echo Check out my AI War strategy guide and find your inner Super Cat!
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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2012, 10:44:31 am »
For me the game works just fine but it seems to be a bit laggier. Lower FPS.
Actually never mind. I just tested the game with a bigger fleet and it's almost unplayable. Putting ships in Transporters "fixes" the lag.
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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2012, 12:05:54 pm »
For me the game works just fine but it seems to be a bit laggier. Lower FPS.
Actually never mind. I just tested the game with a bigger fleet and it's almost unplayable. Putting ships in Transporters "fixes" the lag.
System specs (particularly graphics card)?  Save?  Thanks :)
I had tons of ships on screen when it was lagging badly. Also I had some stuff running in the background so maybe that slowed down my comp too. BUT.. the game does seem to be a bit laggier than before.

Here's the stuff.
set /A diff=10
if %diff%==max (
   set /A me=:)
) else (
   set /A me=SadPanda
)
echo Check out my AI War strategy guide and find your inner Super Cat!
echo 2592 hours of AI War and counting!
echo Kahuna matata!

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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 12:49:52 pm »
Yeah i have performance issues now with the new betas. ESPECIALLY when i hold down the shift key to give multiple orders and there are lots of blue lines coming up. Noticeably less FPS than before.

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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2012, 12:56:35 pm »
Yeah i have performance issues now with the new betas. ESPECIALLY when i hold down the shift key to give multiple orders and there are lots of blue lines coming up. Noticeably less FPS than before.
ATI card? :)

@Kahuna: I'm getting pretty awful performance in that save too, even on the galaxy map.  Do you happen to have any saves from 5.041 or earlier that exhibit similar problems when loaded in 5.042+?  If so I could load those in 5.041 and see if they still had the slowdown there and if not start isolating what changes caused this.

Thanks :)
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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2012, 01:05:36 pm »
Yeah i have performance issues now with the new betas. ESPECIALLY when i hold down the shift key to give multiple orders and there are lots of blue lines coming up. Noticeably less FPS than before.
ATI card? :)

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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2012, 01:18:25 pm »
Yeah i have performance issues now with the new betas. ESPECIALLY when i hold down the shift key to give multiple orders and there are lots of blue lines coming up. Noticeably less FPS than before.
ATI card? :)

Nope, Nvidia!

NVidia Geforce GT 540M

Driver version 8.17.12.6601
A-ha, the plot thickens!  Thanks :)  If you have a save where you're seeing the performance problem and can post that here that would be great, for our reference and testing purposes.
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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 01:25:17 pm »
Attached a save,

The battle at Lesekash where i have around 1000 units is quite choppy.

Having just tested the hotfix i noticed improved performance during the gameplay but still gets a bit choppy when i hold shift and give multiple orders and it didn't do that before. Much better than the last beta version though.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 01:32:57 pm by Varone »

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Re: Performance problems in the latest version? ATI in particular?
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2012, 02:08:14 pm »
@Kahuna: I'm getting pretty awful performance in that save too, even on the galaxy map.  Do you happen to have any saves from 5.041 or earlier that exhibit similar problems when loaded in 5.042+?  If so I could load those in 5.041 and see if they still had the slowdown there and if not start isolating what changes caused this.

Nope sorry. I usually delete my old games.
set /A diff=10
if %diff%==max (
   set /A me=:)
) else (
   set /A me=SadPanda
)
echo Check out my AI War strategy guide and find your inner Super Cat!
echo 2592 hours of AI War and counting!
echo Kahuna matata!