Warheads don't make it to targets anymore

[Vinraith]

Maybe this was intentional, I don't know, but I've noticed that warhead survivability has dropped drastically in the 4.0 versions compared to the 3.1x days. Being as the lower level warheads seem to die pretty much the instant they enter a hostile system, I'm not sure what they're good for anymore. Is this a balance oversight or am I just using them wrong?

[Collic]

I don't really use lightning warheads myself, so I can't comment on their survivability. Sending in an emp first is always an option though, if its a particularly tough target and you can eat the AIP.

[Winter Born]

what ship cap and sim speed?
Do you have a save prior to the attack?

Ty

[Vinraith]

what ship cap and sim speed?
Do you have a save prior to the attack?

Ty

Ship cap Normal, sim speed Epic, I don't know that I have a save but suspect I can reproduce it at will, so I'll see what I can do.

[Lancefighter]

I recommend you invest in cloaker starships.

[Vinraith]

I recommend you invest in cloaker starships.

At a certain level of investment, it's cheaper to just use real ships. Seriously though, I'm mostly just asking if it's intrentional that, for example, a level 1 lightning warhead is no longer a viable way to take out a warp gate. If so, that's fine, it was just a surprise to me when my old standby failed me.

[Lancefighter]

honestly, I've never used them as such, to destroy warp gates. Its usually far easier to drop in with a siege and one-shot it.. Or raid starships, bomber starships, etc.

Couple with transports, and its pretty hard to kill them.

[Winter Born]

I recommend you invest in cloaker starships.

I use cloakers every game now

Ill look at the numbers I still have a 3.81 game

good catch


                       pre 4.0                    4.0
Lightning speed 52 health 600k      speed 62 health 120k

Armored was 2,000,000,000 both versions

Will you enter into Mantis?

[Vinraith]

I recommend you invest in cloaker starships.

I use cloakers every game now

Ill look at the numbers I still have a 3.81 game

good catch


                       pre 4.0                    4.0
Lightning speed 52 health 600k      speed 62 health 120k

Armored was 2,000,000,000 both versions

Will you enter into Mantis?

We're sure that's a bug and not a rebalance?

[Lancefighter]

any 5x loss of hp is a bug 

(there was previous a ton of 5x modifiers everywhere that x4000 .. tried.. to get rid of. Apparently, this one was forgotten)

[Vinraith]

any 5x loss of hp is a bug 

(there was previous a ton of 5x modifiers everywhere that x4000 .. tried.. to get rid of. Apparently, this one was forgotten)

Fair enough, I'll report it.

[Winter Born]

It probably is a bug -- In any case Mantis is the place to ask for a change.

[Mánagarmr]

I'd be willing to call it a bug as well. Mantis.