Are Golems still sent as part of Fallen Spire waves?

[Fleet]

Just got my butt kicked after starting construction of of the city hub. 6 black widow golems, an armored golem, re generator golem, core starship, 9 raids...and a bunch of other nasties. Was I really supposed to defend against this? Short of multiple super fortresses, my complete complement of turrets and force fields, all the mass drivers...can I actually kill that many ships that are making a beeline for the hub?
This was on .40 or .39.

[Lancefighter]

Yes.. however, they are a lot costlier now for the ai to throw around, so youll see maybe one or two per wavegroup..

[22:46:12] <Spikey00> so then I won't be able to see the "20 golems" thing?  D:
[22:46:29] <keithLaMothe> yea, they used to cost 6144 points (widow was 4096), but now cost 16384
[22:46:39] <Lancefighter> thats good
[22:46:41] <Spikey00> aw, shoot.
[22:46:44] * Spikey00 slaps knees.
[22:46:46] <Lancefighter> only 1/3 as many armored golems
[22:46:51] <Lancefighter> that means only waves of 3 or 4
[22:46:57] <keithLaMothe> so you won't even see one unless you have a battlegroup of at least 49152 points


ignore most of what I said, because its mostly sarcasm..

[orzelek]

Just got my butt kicked after starting construction of of the city hub. 6 black widow golems, an armored golem, re generator golem, core starship, 9 raids...and a bunch of other nasties. Was I really supposed to defend against this? Short of multiple super fortresses, my complete complement of turrets and force fields, all the mass drivers...can I actually kill that many ships that are making a beeline for the hub?
This was on .40 or .39.

Don't you have nice fleet of spire ships? They can stop waves like that.
If thats one of first hubs wave would be a bit large tho...

[keith.lamothe]

Fleet, balance has been swinging around quite a lot on this stuff, in 4.041 you'd probably get a very different experience (though I hope you have a save from before planting that hub, as once it's planted the attack has been spawned and won't be changed by loading in a later version).

But 8 golems in the first hub wave?  It's only 60,000 points and is supposed to be split at least 2 ways.  If you were playing on difficulty 8 it's 90,000 points, and if you were playing with multiple homeworlds it multiplies by that number.

If you enable advanced logging (on the advanced tab of the settings window) it will write a EventAttackCompositionInfoLog.txt file to your RuntimeData directory when spawning one of these attacks so you can see how many points the armada got, how many battlegroups, and composition and point total per battlegroup.

Anyway, sorry it stomped you so hard, I've really been trying to get it down to a reasonable level