Hunter Plot Questions

[Kahuna]

Waves pay for Starships, Exos pay for Golems, CPAs pay for Mark V Guardians, Beachhead wave is half the size but has a beachhead.

Special forces should pay for H/Ks somehow. At least that would make sense. How much Special Forces would pay for the H/Ks would depend on the plot intensity.

Also.. destroying a Special Forces Guard Posts could decrease the size of the Special Forces by 1% or 2%. I think that could be interesting. They would still increase AIP of course.

[keith.lamothe]

Waves pay for Starships

Actually they don't   The starships are an extra piece added on top, with quantity determined by AIP.  Similar to how spire cap ships are added to Spire Hammer waves, etc.

[Kahuna]

Waves pay for Starships

Actually they don't   The starships are an extra piece added on top, with quantity determined by AIP.  Similar to how spire cap ships are added to Spire Hammer waves, etc.

Ok. How about higher Mark fleet ships?

[chemical_art]

Waves pay for Starships

Actually they don't   The starships are an extra piece added on top, with quantity determined by AIP.  Similar to how spire cap ships are added to Spire Hammer waves, etc.

On that note, an AI that would send pure starship waves would be interesting.

[Kahuna]

Waves pay for Starships

Actually they don't   The starships are an extra piece added on top, with quantity determined by AIP.  Similar to how spire cap ships are added to Spire Hammer waves, etc.

On that note, an AI that would send pure starship waves would be interesting.

I think Starfleet Commander serves that purpose well enough.. but Starships ONLY.. hmmm that would be very annoying.

[keith.lamothe]

Waves pay for Starships

Actually they don't   The starships are an extra piece added on top, with quantity determined by AIP.  Similar to how spire cap ships are added to Spire Hammer waves, etc.

Ok. How about higher Mark fleet ships?

It does indeed pay for those.

In a lot of ways it's just two separate waves grouped together: one fleet ships, one starships.

[Histidine]

Now, the AI gets all kinds of things for "free" (like half the minor factions and AI plots), but free H/Ks is a jerk move rivaled only by Astro Trains.

[keith.lamothe]

AI Plots are, by definition, "jerk moves"

[Toranth]

AI Plots are, by definition, "jerk moves"

In this case, I'm not exactly sure about that.
It's not unusual for my mid-late game to have the SF get up to 100,000+ strength.
If it were buying the SF using Exowave rules rather than the current rules, I'd be WISHING it were still limited to just a few H/Ks.

More seriously, if H/Ks were added to the current SF purchasing list, I suspect we'd see the same problem we have with the SF getting very low-cap ships like Blade Spawners.  Eventually, those high-power low-cap ships are all that's left.  I very much prefer dealing with a large group of a variety of ships over the alternative of ending up with a half-dozen H/Ks and nothing else running around.

On that note, an AI that would send pure starship waves would be interesting.

Oooh!  +1 like.  This would make Starship Commander much more interesting.
Once implemented, this could change to "A++, would get killed again".

[Vyndicu]

I posted a late night question and did not expect this thread to blow up like a carrier threatfleet invading a chokehold!

More seriously, if H/Ks were added to the current SF purchasing list, I suspect we'd see the same problem we have with the SF getting very low-cap ships like Blade Spawners.  Eventually, those high-power low-cap ships are all that's left.  I very much prefer dealing with a large group of a variety of ships over the alternative of ending up with a half-dozen H/Ks and nothing else running around.

Kind of like schizophrenic wave AI plot being applied to SF purchase logic?

[Kahuna]

I posted a late night question and did not expect this thread to blow up like a carrier threatfleet invading a chokehold!

Welcome to AI War forum

[keith.lamothe]

I'd say this one made it further than the average carrier fleet against a chokepoint.