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Offline fuchu

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HOLY !!!! Something weird after patch.
« on: August 03, 2009, 10:05:13 pm »
 I had about 30 hours into an 80 planet game on level 8. I was doing ok by my standards. The enemy AI was set to Fortress Baron. I would get attacked by a few waves of varying types of ships every so often. These waves usually had about 200 hundred ships in them.

Today I go to play my game and it updated and as soon as the game started it sent me warnings of attacks coming all over the place !!!!!!!  About 3 minutes go by and I had to cry MOTHER as waves of over 3000 ships in each attack clobbered me.  The game ended about 30 seconds later as I was annihalated.................

 So my question is, could the new update be faulty or was the old game before the update faulty leading me to believe I was holding my own?   Why is it such a drastic difference from the pre update to the new one?
   Boy do I feel down after putting in all those hours.

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Re: HOLY !!!! Something weird after patch.
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 10:25:03 pm »
30 hours in at DIF 8 what progression?

I fear for your progression that the AI was indeed way too passive before which has been fixed, once planet are filled to the cap with ships ai will start free form unannounced attacks (otherwise its unit reinforcements would go to waste!)

If you have not yet saved you might want to revert to the old versions to continue that game to the end. But yeah.. at dif 8 you shouldn't be 30 hours in and only see 200 ships incoming.
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Re: HOLY !!!! Something weird after patch.
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 10:36:01 pm »
You should only be seeing at most one cross-planet attack at a time... that might be paired with other normal waves (which are pretty large that late in the game, I imagine).  Having 3,000 ships in a cross-planet attack is very unlucky, those range between 1,000 and 3,000 ships usually.  You might try reloading that save again and see if you fare any better now that you are better prepared.

The AI did indeed receive a big upgrade in how it works, and one downside is that some of the balance of really-long-and-on-the-brink savegames from prior versions might suddenly become unwinnable if you were already in just a moderate position, rather than a position of strength.

With a game that long, the AI is bound to be as entrenched as all get out, and now it's going to be coming back with a vengeance.

Also of note:  in prior updates, if you had been making it that far into the game it's quite possible that the AI was stalling out and thus not really playing much.  In the last update that was fixed, so now the AI is fully "awake" and after you.  So it's quite possible that there were a lot of freed ships all over the place in your map that seemed dormant but really should have been attacking you if the AI was not stalled out.  If you're seeing massive numbers of ships inflowing constantly, then that's probably what had happened.  That's a very unfortunate side effect of the bug in the past release, it would have made things (much) easier than they should have been, and the fixed update would then be pretty apocalyptic.  :-\
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Re: HOLY !!!! Something weird after patch.
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2009, 07:34:11 am »
Thank you for the answers and explanations.

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Re: HOLY !!!! Something weird after patch.
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2009, 08:27:04 am »
You bet -- sorry about the trouble there, I hope that's not too frustrating.
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