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Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« on: July 24, 2010, 09:41:33 am »
The pre release 3.4~~ talked about alternate galaxy layouts per player and dragging planets around - but

ALT + A + 1 activates priority setting

Controls files has no mention whatsoever of that feature

I am confused.

How does one activate alternate galaxies?

Also the WIKI on controls links to a topic from 2009 - should be fixed ^^
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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2010, 11:17:08 am »
I've been wondering this as well.

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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2010, 01:42:35 pm »
I don't have have the game running right now, but I believe it works as follows:

-In galaxy view, hold "x" and right click some empty area
-Left clicking, choose the first option (galaxy view, I think), and then alternate view (or something like that. Just poke around the menu)
-Now exit the menu, and while holding "control", left click and drag planets

If this does not work, let me know and I'll start up the game and figure it out.

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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2010, 02:00:40 pm »
Holding control makes names and such disappear, but attempting to drag a planet only sends me to that planet.

It's shift.

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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2010, 02:26:58 pm »
yes X and shift works - though the ingame controls file REALLY needs to say this ^^

Thanks ^^
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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2010, 02:30:21 pm »
Please remember that this feature is still part of the beta releases rather than the official releases, so rather than update controls.txt every single time we move something around because xyz keyboard can't use it or whatever, we were waiting until we were making it official ;)

If you want the running commentary on what does what, the wiki page on the current beta can help:

http://arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War_-_Current_Beta
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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 02:40:32 pm »
Yeah i looked there - searched for alternate galaxy map and rejoiced, there is nay a mention that it was moved into the context menu (nor that we even have a context menu ability in the galaxy map) it was strictly for tactical map so far. ;p
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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 02:47:54 pm »
Yeah i looked there - searched for alternate galaxy map and rejoiced, there is nay a mention that it was moved into the context menu (nor that we even have a context menu ability in the galaxy map) it was strictly for tactical map so far. ;p
Huh? No mention?

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Prerelease 3.141
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First implementation of x+right-click context menu.
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Moved Switch-galaxy-layout-being-viewed controls from Alt+A+# to X+right-click context menu on galaxy map.
Or are we talking about different things?
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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2010, 03:12:29 pm »
Mhh that didn't turn up in silly firefox search.. then again in the wiki when i searched for galaxy map i found 300 or so mentions ;) Ah well, all well now ;)

I hadn't even registered that there is a context menu
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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2010, 09:18:43 am »
I still just simply want the galaxy map to represent the wormholes ingame. (a wormhole in my homeworld to the east should be to the east of my homeworld in the map too, for simplicity's sake).  :D

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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2010, 09:33:58 am »
Maybe when we have the transfer to the unity engine...  :D

But as you probably noticed - the connections are very.. ehm irregular so sometimes you'd have 3 wormholes next to each other.
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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2010, 10:29:47 am »
I still just simply want the galaxy map to represent the wormholes ingame. (a wormhole in my homeworld to the east should be to the east of my homeworld in the map too, for simplicity's sake).  :D

You must have played a lot of Space Empires.  They had very strict galaxy generation rules, one of which was that wormholes on the east side of a system went east in the galaxy.

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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2010, 10:37:25 am »
That was a simple trick they used - they don't have wormholes but a circular area where ships move in as if they'd physically come from that direction (because they do in fact come from that direction ,p) The problem of course is that this made stationary defenses nearly 100% pointless which they attempted to fix with their entrenchment add-on

Space Empires IV also did this but the difference is that Space Empires IV has ... many more planets per solar system - in AI War technically only planets are linked - not whole solar systems
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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2010, 11:51:11 am »
That was a simple trick they used - they don't have wormholes but a circular area where ships move in as if they'd physically come from that direction (because they do in fact come from that direction ,p) The problem of course is that this made stationary defenses nearly 100% pointless which they attempted to fix with their entrenchment add-on
You must be thinking of Sins of A Solar Empire :)

Was playing a lot of Space Empires V over the break and I rather like the wormhole-placed-at-galaxy-angle rule (if we do it in AI War it will be optional, of course, just a play-style preference).  There was an earlier request for something like this but we had understood it to mean that the galaxy-map-nodes would be placed in relation to their wormhole placements, rather than the other way around.  That would have been impossible in a lot of cases ;)
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Re: Galaxy map - Alternate Layout.. ehm, how?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2010, 12:18:57 pm »
Yikes you are right ;) ;D
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