Poll

Do EMP guardians, as a whole, EMP worlds too long to be considered balanced?

Yes, the time should be shortened substantially, but the spawn rate is about right
1 (8.3%)
Yes, the time should be shortened substantially AND the spawn rate needs to be decreased
0 (0%)
Yes, but only for higher marks (aka. decrease the rate the EMP time grows over Mk. lvl)
1 (8.3%)
No, they are about right
4 (33.3%)
No, they are supposed to be unfair if they ever make it to your planet
2 (16.7%)
No, but they could use a spawn rate decrease
0 (0%)
Undeclared, I have not had enough experiance with EMP gaurdians to say
4 (33.3%)
Other, thier mechanics could use an adjustment (post why and potential ideas)
0 (0%)

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Offline TechSY730

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EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« on: September 06, 2011, 03:41:05 pm »
After one detonated on my planet and EMPed my planet for 20 seconds (though admittidly, it was a Mk. IV EMP gaurdian), I'm wondering if the EMP guardians are a little too good at their job.
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Offline x4000

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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 03:42:08 pm »
Compared to what you're able to do to the AI with EMPs, 20 seconds is pretty tame!
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 03:43:01 pm »
Quote from: x4000 on September 06, 2011, 03:42:08 pm
Compared to what you're able to do to the AI with EMPs, 20 seconds is pretty tame!

Yea, thinking about this, I'm just whining. Oops.

Oh well, at least this can be a good survey.
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Offline x4000

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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 03:43:38 pm »
All good.
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 03:56:01 pm »
Well, Emp guardians get to set off their EMP many times compared to the player, and don't even take any AIP for it!

Wait a second.......
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Offline TechSY730

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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 04:31:54 pm »
Quote from: Ranakastrasz on September 06, 2011, 03:56:01 pm
Well, Emp guardians get to set off their EMP many times compared to the player, and don't even take any AIP for it!

Wait a second.......

Good point. I added an option suggesting that thier mechanics should be adjusted.
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 04:36:59 pm »
Oops, I added this to the wrong subforum. Could someone move this to the main AI War forum?

EDIT: Thank you
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 04:46:40 pm »
Quote from: techsy730 on September 06, 2011, 04:31:54 pm
Quote from: Ranakastrasz on September 06, 2011, 03:56:01 pm
Well, Emp guardians get to set off their EMP many times compared to the player, and don't even take any AIP for it!

Wait a second.......

Good point. I added an option suggesting that thier mechanics should be adjusted.

Uhm, I was being kinda sarcastic there, suggesting that Emp guardians were just like EMP warheads, especially in that when the AI detonates them, it gains AIP, meaning it becomes more powerful :D
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 04:49:18 pm »
Quote from: Ranakastrasz on September 06, 2011, 04:46:40 pm
Quote from: techsy730 on September 06, 2011, 04:31:54 pm
Quote from: Ranakastrasz on September 06, 2011, 03:56:01 pm
Well, Emp guardians get to set off their EMP many times compared to the player, and don't even take any AIP for it!

Wait a second.......

Good point. I added an option suggesting that thier mechanics should be adjusted.

Uhm, I was being kinda sarcastic there, suggesting that Emp guardians were just like EMP warheads, especially in that when the AI detonates them, it gains AIP, meaning it becomes more powerful :D

Oh, I see what you were doing now. I'll still leave that option up there though.
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 07:02:01 pm »
Haha, I think they're great. Frankly the AI should get more of them. Nothing more hilarious than you hearing a loud boom then checking on a planet "oww nuts!!"

The first time I learned my lesson. I aggrevated a planet that had them and then hearing a sequence of booms, seeing 2 of my planets nuked and the last one just arriving at my home base without me having time to respond.

Btw? Is there any AI that gets more of them?
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 07:07:15 pm »
Quote from: Philo on September 06, 2011, 07:02:01 pm
Haha, I think they're great. Frankly the AI should get more of them. Nothing more hilarious than you hearing a loud boom then checking on a planet "oww nuts!!"

The first time I learned my lesson. I aggrevated a planet that had them and then hearing a sequence of booms, seeing 2 of my planets nuked and the last one just arriving at my home base without me having time to respond.

Btw? Is there any AI that gets more of them?

Oh god I hope not. Having just a few is enough for me thanks...

Edit: New AI type, All ships release a planet-wide, Enemy only EMP burst on entering a planet, lasts <mark> seconds, stacks with more ships.
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 07:26:54 pm »
What I think IS unfair -- assuming I read the text right the one time it's happened to me -- is that the AI got +6 AIP from detonating its own frickin EMP. Talk about insult to injury.

(Or maybe I had an untended EMP floating around that planet that got triggered... in which case joke's on me.)
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 07:28:51 pm »
Jokes on you -- it's not from the AI EMPs. ;)
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 07:30:46 pm »
Uhhh... whoops. Would an EMP on the other side of the planet get triggered by another EMP blast? It's hard to believe even I would be careless enough to have a warhead just sitting on the front lines, but I guess tis possible...
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Re: EMP Guardians Last Too Long?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 07:32:17 pm »
I think that EMPs might trigger other EMPs, now that you mention it.
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