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Offline Lime11

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Cross planet attacks aren't working??
« on: February 11, 2015, 03:11:04 am »
Okay, so i've played the game a few times now (like ten or so games with 10+ hours). beat it twice on 7.3.  In every single game cross planet attacks result in nothing happening. gone through the games options to make sure i have accidently changed the options somehow. nothing seems to be wrong. i did a test game where i played until i got a cross planet attack warning of 1000+. once this happened i destoryed all defense turrets on all front line planets and moved all fleets back a few planets. i did this to see if the ai was holding back because it didn't see the point in sending all those ships into a fight it knew it would loose. wave activates. still nothing. threat lvl sky rockets. but no ships come through any worm-holes. scouts show that the ships are there on the next door ai planets, but they just sit there. they'll defend if i attack, but never go on the defensive themselves.

so, does any1 no why this is happening, or may be happening? ??? ???
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Re: Cross planet attacks aren't working??
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2015, 08:51:08 am »
Welcome to the game and to the forums :)

In the test case you mention the CPA is launching, as shown by the threat number increase.  All a CPA does is release a lot of ships as threat, so that's done.  The rest is up to the threat logic, which does check nearby planets to see if there's really a point in attacking.  Possibly it's being too conservative here, I dunno, but it doesn't sound like a bug per se.  Thanks for letting me know, though :)
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Re: Cross planet attacks aren't working??
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2015, 08:19:12 pm »
Welcome to the game and to the forums :)

In the test case you mention the CPA is launching, as shown by the threat number increase.  All a CPA does is release a lot of ships as threat, so that's done.  The rest is up to the threat logic, which does check nearby planets to see if there's really a point in attacking.  Possibly it's being too conservative here, I dunno, but it doesn't sound like a bug per se.  Thanks for letting me know, though :)

 thanks for clearing up the fact that all cross planet attacks do is increase threat lvl. but surely the threat logic would have figured that that no turrets and no ships means no threat. why wouldn't it have attacked?
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Re: Cross planet attacks aren't working??
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2015, 08:21:28 pm »
How many hops away was your fleet?
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Re: Cross planet attacks aren't working??
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2015, 09:06:08 pm »
How many hops away was your fleet?

I can't remember exactly. I thinks they were 2 away on one flank and just 1 away on another. none of the planets my fleet were on had any turrets either, if that means anything.
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Re: Cross planet attacks aren't working??
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2015, 09:58:44 pm »
I believe it checks for mobile human strength as many as 3 hops away.  Previously they didn't check nearby strength at all, and it was very, very easy to bait waiting threat and kill it at leisure.  It's still possible to bait them, but it's not trivial.

Anyway, if you wanted to test it, you could try scrapping your fleet.  Presumably they'd attack then, if there was something worth attacking on a planet with little/no turrets.  Bear in mind they're scared stiff of Fortress units.
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Re: Cross planet attacks aren't working??
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2015, 02:43:01 am »
I believe it checks for mobile human strength as many as 3 hops away.  Previously they didn't check nearby strength at all, and it was very, very easy to bait waiting threat and kill it at leisure.  It's still possible to bait them, but it's not trivial.

Anyway, if you wanted to test it, you could try scrapping your fleet.  Presumably they'd attack then, if there was something worth attacking on a planet with little/no turrets.  Bear in mind they're scared stiff of Fortress units.

righto then, i will test that.  thx keith!
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