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Offline x4000

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Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« on: January 22, 2010, 12:43:47 pm »
Hey everyone,

I know we have a good number of German players here in the forums, and if you are one of them I need your help if you can spare a bit of time.  AI War is going to be coming to retail in Germany in a few months, and we have the translation back from the publisher.  I can't speak to its general quality as I don't know more than perhaps 30 words of German (last time I was in Germany, I was 12), but what is immediately apparent to me with this is the fact that there are sizing issues all over the place.  

- The ship descriptions are all on one line, which causes the ship tooltips to be completely unreadable for a good number of ships.  I need someone (or several someones) who know German to add sensible line breaks into these so that they will show properly on a screen that is 1024x768.  The original ships.xml file had line breaks to keep all of the lines to within various general widths, and you can use those as a guide.  I suspect that similar issues about in the tutorials.

- There are also numerous other too-lengthy bits of text scattered all throughout various aspects of the game.  Where possible, I would like to find suitably clear abbreviations to fit within the existing spaces.  Where not possible, I'll need to make it so that the game itself uses a bit of larger sizing for certain buttons, etc.

- In general, I'd love it if someone who knows the game can do a "sanity check" to make sure that the names of ships and stuff in the game is what players would expect.  If not, feel free to rename them something more appropriate.

- In general, I am looking for opinions and help from German-speaking AI War players to make sure that this localization is of a quality they would be comfortable with picking up at a store.  There may be some gotchas in the current work that I haven't even thought of.


This is for version 3.016 of the game, not with the expansion, so the best way to test this is to turn off the expansion.  Otherwise, the expansion parts will just be in English while the non-expansion parts are in German.  To load up the German localization, simply download the attached file and then look in the Language folder in your AI War folder.  Then create a folder called "trans" inside Language, and unpack the German files into there.  When you load up the game, it will be in German, with it defaulting to English for any missing German items (thus German players can always use the English-language patches without incident, but any new text that has not yet been translated for them would be in English until a German-language text update was later created).  

AI War is also coming to retail in Russia, but so far our Russian publisher is handling all of these sort of things internally.  In the case of our German publisher, they are wanting to go to manufacturing on this Wednesday the 27th, which is putting a ton of time pressure on me for making sure that the quality of this stuff comes out appropriately, etc.  So any help that you can provide before the 27th is much appreciated, and I will make a special section for people who assist with this in particular if you can give me the text for "German Localization QA" or something like that. :)

Thanks again for all your help, everyone!
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 04:26:11 pm »
99% sure Eraser is german speaking though i don't know if he has the time to take help :)
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 06:07:39 pm »
This is just what I was waiting for, if you remember x4k  :)  I'm on it
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 08:03:29 pm »
This is just what I was waiting for, if you remember x4k  :)  I'm on it

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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 09:14:04 pm »
Awesome, thank you for the help!
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2010, 04:31:27 am »
Since I´m german too, I´d like to help.

Maybe the germans in this board could coordinate, so that we don´t do the same files all over again.

Oder anders ausgedrückt : Ich würde gerne helfen diese Texte zu übersetzen, denke aber es wäre am besten wenn wir uns absprechen, wer was übersetzt.
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 05:58:30 am »

Oder anders ausgedrückt : Ich würde gerne helfen diese Texte zu übersetzen, denke aber es wäre am besten wenn wir uns absprechen, wer was übersetzt.


Also was denkst du? Ich hab schonmal nen thread eröffnet. Sollte jeder seinen eigenen machen? Sollten wir alle zusammen einen machen? oder sollen wir nach nem Unterforum für uns fragen?
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2010, 07:22:54 am »

Also was denkst du? Ich hab schonmal nen thread eröffnet. Sollte jeder seinen eigenen machen? Sollten wir alle zusammen einen machen? oder sollen wir nach nem Unterforum für uns fragen?

Unterforum lohnt glaub ich nicht. Am einfachsten wäre es  glaube ich, wenn wir einfach die xml files aufteilen.

Ich würde mit ships.xml anfangen. Dann könntest du mit dem main.xml anfangen. Das sind die beiden grössten files. Ist das OK für dich ?

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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2010, 09:58:09 am »
Ich habe zwar keine Zeit für eine Vollständige Übersetzung, aber ich kann ja an schwierigen stellen meine Meinung einwerfen :)

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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2010, 10:15:35 am »
ok, ich kann dann mit main anfangen.
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2010, 10:16:50 am »
Many thanks to everyone who is helping -- I really, really appreciate it, and I know everyone who plays the retail game in your region will, as well.  In the next few days, send me PM if you'd like me to use your real name instead of your forum handle in the game credits.  Or, I'll use your forum handle if you prefer to remain anonymous.
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2010, 11:48:21 am »
What resolution shall I use? The game doesn't auto-line-break at the edge of the screen. Can you name something like a minimum-resolution the game should work on?
EDIT3: I noticed this is very important because sometimes you cannot perform a line break. It has to fit.

EDIT:
I can just take your English example for each tooltip, adding more lines/line breaks to prevent the text from going beyond the screen.
I use the game font in a word document to align the line breaks. I can just look how long your English lines are, adjust the document borders that the lines tightly fit, replace the lines with the translations. Then I can see where I have to put the line breaks in the XML-file. Might be a useful technique for others as well  ;)

EDIT2:
Strange: in the XML-files bothe the german and the english version use a single XML-line. For example "<ln id="Header_MetalExp">...</ln>"
BUT the English text is properly broken into 3 lines while the German text uses just a single line like in the XML-file and leaves the screen. To properly break the lines I have to break them manually in the XML-file, this is not necessary in the english version. o.O

This not that much of a problem, but I can't see whether the english text has line breaks or not. So before I can copy the text into my word-document to break the lines, I have to take a look at the game to see where the line breaks are. This is additional work: switching between english/german version, it take stime to launch the game.
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2010, 12:25:53 pm »
This is a first draft for the ships.xml file ....

OK, hier ist die erste Version des ship.xml mit den angepassten Zeilenumbrüchen. Sonst habe ich nichts geändert. Funktioniert bei mir mit 1900 * 1200 und 1024 * 600 .....

Ich bin nicht ganz glücklich mit einigen Übersetzungen, deswegen führe ich hier mal die Originalübersetzungen und meine Alternativen an ....

   Original                                         Übersetzung                                   Mein Alternativvorschlag                               Begründung
       
Colony_Ship                                 Kolonisierungsschiff                           Kolonieschiff                                                 Kürzer

Anti_Armor                                   Anti-Panzerung                                    Panzerbrecher                                                Kürzer und genauer

Cutlass                                            Machete                                                Säbel                                                              Bessere Übersetzung

Advanced_Research                     Fortschrittliche Forschung                    Forschung                                                     Kürzer, es gibt nur die eine

Advanced_Factory                       Fortschrittliche Fabrik                            Fabrik                                                           Kürzer, es gibt nur die eine

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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2010, 12:33:42 pm »
Finde ich gut! aber...



Advanced_Research                     Fortschrittliche Forschung                    Forschung                                                     Kürzer, es gibt nur die eine

Advanced_Factory                       Fortschrittliche Fabrik                            Fabrik                                                           Kürzer, es gibt nur die eine




Ich weis nicht, wie es in der XML ist, aber I'm Spiel gibt es ja 2 verschiedene Forschungsschiffe und eine advanced Factory, die so advanced ist weil sie die mk4 Schiffe bauen kann. Da kommt es darauf an, wo diese Übersetzungen angezeigt werden. Es wäre blöd, wenn Missverständnisse aufkommen.
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Re: Calling all German-Speaking AI War Players!
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2010, 12:39:28 pm »

Anti_Armor                                   Anti-Panzerung                                    Panzerbrecher                                                Kürzer und genauer

 

     Plus, "armor breaker" is at least 50% more awesome.