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Offline DakaSha

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Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« on: November 06, 2010, 10:07:38 pm »
I think I once read that the AI like the player gets the 3(4) basic ship types plus one or more types. Of course some AI's also have special ships only available to them and others always start with specific types.

Also if i recall correctly they also *unlock* ships as the game progresses.

Now I'm just asking because in my current game both AI's (Tag Teamer & Shield Ninny) are only using the basic ships from what I can tell (plus guardians) both to defend their planet and in waves... its getting kind of boring :P

I remember in previous versions the AI would send waves with a wide array of ships (i play with schizo on) and the planets would be defended with different ships

So far every single wave in this game has consisted of frigates, bombers and fighters and all planets are only defending with the same 3 (+ guardians) :(

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Offline Lancefighter

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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 11:05:35 pm »
what diff is the ai at? lower difficulties tend to have less random types
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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 11:14:26 pm »
7.6

I'm starting to think it may be a bug.. I just havnt posted it on mantis because I'm not sure... But I havnt seen a single different ship type yet. When i hold the mouse over enemy planets the only things there are Fighters, Bombers, Frigates, Guardians and Stealthed (Prob because of the Camouflage AI type.. I forgot that it isn't tag teamer :P )

If somebody else has started a game with 4.29 and could see if they have the same thing it would be cool

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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 11:15:44 pm »
o.0 yesh that is off. they should have at least two or three random unlocks there :\
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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 11:16:53 pm »
Ok I'll report it..

*sigh* another 3 hours wasted lol. Next non beta I'm sticking to that :P
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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 11:23:17 pm »
nah

just join the rest of the QA department on IRC
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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 11:25:50 pm »
I spend enough time debugging my own projects.. As much as i want to support Arcen (and will when I notice something) I'd kinda like to not have to worry about bug hunting when I'm not working on my own games :P

That being said it's my fault for starting the betas ^^

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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 11:52:47 pm »
You may have inadvertently put the Ships available option in lobby to "Simple".

My first game against 2x Zenith Descendants AIs, I put Ships available on simple so the game wouldn't too overwhelming and they only had the Z Bombardment one in every planet.

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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 11:54:45 pm »
ugh let me make sure that didn't happen.. I dont ever touch that control but if i did I'm going to feel extremely dumb again..

edit: Nope it's on complex.
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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2010, 12:05:15 am »
As a matter of fact if i start a new game with full visibility it happens every time except if the AI happens to be experimentalist (in which case he has experimental ships) and possibly other AI types with certain ships.

Could somebody else try and confirm this to make sure its not something on my side? (whether it's me doing something stupid or maybe due to specific setting)


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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2010, 12:16:01 am »
Can you post a save game in mantis please?

started 2 games full vis and yes only the triangle fleet ships for little guys

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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 12:23:13 am »
yeah posted my earl/mid game save to show that even later there were no other ships

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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 01:24:35 am »
Zenith Descendant is bugged actually, it just doesnt create ships...

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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 04:07:02 am »
Zenith Descendant is bugged actually, it just doesn't create ships...


I just made a game:
complex ships
no expansions enabled (have all 3  :D)


 and still got only the basic triangle ships for AI fleet forces

To be clear, on all my game attempts I have seen AI Starships along with bomber fighter frigate
with or without, some all or none, of the expansions enabled.
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Re: Aren't all AI types supposed to have random ship types?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 05:56:54 am »
Zenith Descendant is bugged actually, it just doesnt create ships...

Sounds like food for the bug tracker :)

I used to like that AI form my last SlimDX game (not hade one in unity yet). Lots of nice ships to capture with my Leeches ^^
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