Author Topic: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?  (Read 947 times)

Offline TechSY730

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Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« on: June 29, 2014, 12:20:40 am »
I noticed my lightning turrets, which should be getting a bonus vs zenith mirrors' hull type, are doing 10x the BASE damage vs zenith mirrors, not 10x * bonus damage. Am I forgetting something dumb, like armor or something? Or is there an issue going on?


Also, there is the issue of Zenith mirrors in carriers.

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Re: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2014, 06:08:49 am »
That's how Zenith Mirrors work.  Everything just gets a flat 10x attack bonus against them.  That replaces any hull bonuses.
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Re: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 06:23:25 am »
I should add the disclaimer that I'm going by that screen under the reference tab that predicts how different ships will fare against one another.  It shows everything getting a flat 10x bonus against Mirrors.  I haven't confirmed in-game.
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Re: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 11:02:36 am »
This is my understanding as well, that it's intentional.  Suggestions on how to make that clearer in-game?
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Re: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 12:22:09 pm »
This is my understanding as well, that it's intentional.  Suggestions on how to make that clearer in-game?

Change "All Attackers Get Damage Bonus Against This x10" to "All Attackers Get Damage Bonus Against This x10 instead of their normal multiplier."

Or create a new hull type for them.  "Hull: Mirrored."  What way people don't get confused why the neutron hull bonuses aren't kicking in.

Side note:
Their fluff text indicates a weakness to melee units, but they're immune to blades and Fusion Cutters. :P
« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 12:25:31 pm by Draco18s »

Offline Aklyon

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Re: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2014, 12:32:42 pm »
They aren't really weak to them then. :P

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Re: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2014, 12:36:08 pm »
Side note:
Their fluff text indicates a weakness to melee units, but they're immune to blades and Fusion Cutters. :P

Yeah, there are a few things where the "fluff" doesn't match up. Like Warp Gate Guardians. Their fluff says they are 'short ranged' brawler types. At over 10k range, it most certainly isn't short ranged.

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Re: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2014, 08:23:22 am »
ZaneWolfe - we have a list of such issues here.  I've added Warp Gate Guardians.  Please comment there or let me know if you find any more, as it's easier for Keith to fix them all at once (though I see he's already fixed the issues with Mirrors).
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Re: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2014, 08:40:34 am »
ZaneWolfe - we have a list of such issues here.  I've added Warp Gate Guardians.  Please comment there or let me know if you find any more, as it's easier for Keith to fix them all at once (though I see he's already fixed the issues with Mirrors).

I commented yesterday with the Z-Mirrors and Warp Gate Guardians. :P

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Re: Are bonuses not working vs Zenith Mirrors?
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2014, 11:32:55 am »
I do sometimes fix one-off textual issues as I run into them, just so I don't forget, and sometimes because it looks like there might be something more than just textual going on.  The compilation will be addressed too :)
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