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Offline x4000

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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2010, 02:40:36 pm »
Right -- that's why I left it.
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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2010, 02:43:56 pm »
created a copy of the index page and have been adding some possible new pages/topics to it

http://www.arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Practice_area

feel free to edit it
or comment on it on the associated talk page

I will start moving some of the proposed topics to the main index page tommorow.

TY
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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2010, 02:46:44 pm »
Right -- that's why I left it.

Right, right.  I was just using it as an example, there are others too.

Like the page that has your's Keith's, and some other guy's starting technology unlocks, a third of which is no longer relevant due to knowledge-free starships and turrets.

I can't just rewrite the info, it's not something I have any knowledge about in order to fix.  So I just added some notes about the difference and added my own research block.

created a copy of the index page and have been adding some possible new pages/topics to it

http://www.arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Practice_area

Looking pretty good.

At some point I think we should also start trying to use namespaces.  It's going to be a hell of a lot of work, but it'll be worth it.
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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2010, 02:49:10 pm »
Well, for the moment the wiki is more of a basic strategy guide than any aglomeration of information.. And well, I personally am not that great at writing something lime that in wiki form.
Honestly, after doing some work, it feels like we need to do more than just edit a few pages to bring them upto date, the entire thing needs rewriting, or at least a reimageing.


Also, shots don't 'miss' often anymore-nothing effects hitchance, just hitdamage

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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2010, 03:01:57 pm »
Well, for the moment the wiki is more of a basic strategy guide than any aglomeration of information.. And well, I personally am not that great at writing something lime that in wiki form.
Honestly, after doing some work, it feels like we need to do more than just edit a few pages to bring them upto date, the entire thing needs rewriting, or at least a reimageing.

It probably really does.  I know Dwarf Fortress's wiki has been rebuilt from the ground up at least three times now.  It's started using namespaces for each of the version its documenting (the old info needs to stick around for those players who still play the old versions, as well as provide at least some data about things where a page for the new version hasn't been created yet, and linked to with a handy template at the top of each article).

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Also, shots don't 'miss' often anymore-nothing effects hitchance, just hitdamage

Exactly my point.  It's a pre-4.0 mechanic but the page is still relevant.

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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2010, 03:39:36 pm »
I was thinking a librarian type person would be invaluable for organizing this.
This is my 1st exp contributing to a wiki.
The wiki grew in an organic fashion and now several apprentice gardeners are trying to tidy up.  :)
The DF wiki is prety amazing btw

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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2010, 03:37:05 am »
We need to answer a few questions I think
  What is the scope of this task -- Rewrite everything from scratch // edit and add what we can // some thing else
  How much time are any of us willing to give this project over what time frame
  Can we get help on the 'vision' for this wiki (as Lancefighter said reimageing)

X4000 said we really don't need to worry about prior versions like DF does.
I think we need to avoid pages with specific data like ship stats since the unit stats are likely to be in flux for a while.  

 there is a pict attached and the source file
the software came from  http://cmap.ihmc.us/    It is now free to everyone  :)

it may prove useful in reimageing



Well, for the moment the wiki is more of a basic strategy guide than any aglomeration of information.. And well, I personally am not that great at writing something lime that in wiki form.
Honestly, after doing some work, it feels like we need to do more than just edit a few pages to bring them upto date, the entire thing needs rewriting, or at least a reimageing.

It probably really does.  I know Dwarf Fortress's wiki has been rebuilt from the ground up at least three times now.  It's started using namespaces for each of the version its documenting (the old info needs to stick around for those players who still play the old versions, as well as provide at least some data about things where a page for the new version hasn't been created yet, and linked to with a handy template at the top of each article).

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Also, shots don't 'miss' often anymore-nothing effects hitchance, just hitdamage

Exactly my point.  It's a pre-4.0 mechanic but the page is still relevant.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2010, 03:29:17 pm by Winter Born »


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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2010, 12:21:48 am »
I think that's a great idea -- though, I would prefer it a bit more compact.  I'll edit that for the moment, but that's just an asthetic thing, I love the concept.  Sorry I've been out of this so much, I've been absolutely feeling like I'm trying to swim up a waterfall lately with all the correspondence and such, and this was a lower priority for my limited time than some of the bugs, etc.  Bleh.  But this is still super important work, I'm so glad you guys have been carrying on with it.  Please let me know if I missed any outstanding questions.
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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2010, 10:55:50 pm »
Added Link to mantis overview page in technical support section of AI war wiki main page
added mantis page http://www.arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War_-_MantisBT_Overview
added design ship tab to CTRLS page
as of 13 Nov
updated the Golem page quite a bit (see the talk page for remaining items to verify/update)
added Guardian page and Guardian links on the main page
Added the "{{Verify}}" template which automaticaly tags the page in the [[Category:Verify]] page for easy searching
Added the "{{HOME}}" template to save entering the entire AI War home page link
Added several [[Catagory:xxx]] tags
tagged several of my early pages for deletion using the {{Del}} template.


eddited http://www.arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War_-_Guard_Posts
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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2010, 03:05:37 am »
Added Combat System Overview page and main page links
http://www.arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War_-_Combat_System
new transports page with main page links
http://www.arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War_-_Transports
added text block to whats new in 4.0 section of main page (Whats new in 4.0 may get its own page for this text)

Corrected link for manual patch in tech support on main page to new thread
Added Warp Counter Attack GP page and main page links
Added link page for AI types
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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2010, 09:19:48 am »
Thx Winter. There's so many units/ships in this game that all the knowledge us new guys can get helps.

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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2010, 09:59:09 am »
Thx Winter. There's so many units/ships in this game that all the knowledge us new guys can get helps.
Ty


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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2010, 10:05:24 am »
Indeed, thanks Winter Born!  I'm super grateful as well. :)
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Re: Any volunteers for helping do updates to the official wiki?
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2010, 10:03:29 pm »
Started new section on the "End Game" with two goals:
To outline what is required to take down the AI home worlds (like the new core shield generators quest ;) )
To indicate the structures unique to the AI home worlds.

http://www.arcengames.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=AI_War_-_End_Game

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It would be helpful to have access to the unit descriptions text

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I plan to start using the discussions page attached to every page to track beta changes applicable to that particular page until an official release. Pages updated to an official release should have the official release template # added to the bottom of the page. Sorting for pages that do not have that official release # is easy and should allow a systematic approach to finding pages that need to be looked at and possibly updated. 
I looked at a few other wikis for ideas on keeping track of version changes. The DF wiki has an amazing system for tracking version changes, but it requires some uninstalled extensions and has some incredibly complex (and easy to break) templates for presenting/tracking versions.

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