Prerelease/Expans 2.001S (Raid Star nerf, Plant Sum+, Rally Posts, Scout Logic+)

[x4000]

Also, the comment about the core fabricator was just me musing about things; As a somewhat fluent modder of x3tc, and a ex-modder of homeworld 2, I look deeper into things than your average player, it seems. A player would look at that and say "yes, it can only build battle cruisers", whereas I look at it and say "thats a waste of resources, having one per type of core ship..."

Although I could be wrong, and it could be a clever use of calling description and name strings in the right place. I'm not quite at the same level of understanding with the ai war engine as I am the engine of x3tc...

Well, in the end, it doesnt truely matter - x4000 has pretty much said thats the point of the core fabricators, so I've nothing really to argue about

I'm not sure why that would be a waste of resources; ship types don't cost me anything, and it fits the model I wanted, and it was by far the quickest thing to code.  My resources are my own time, and money I have to spend on other staff and overhead that are relating to the game.  My way was the most resource-efficient way to do it from a programming standpoint, and from a design standpoint it was simply what I'd been looking for:  A ship class that you can build in only one location, so that you have oodles of incentive to protect that single location if you want to continue having that ship class.

[NickAragua]

Sir, your offenses against the raid starship cannot be left unanswered. We will resolve our differences via duel. ::monocle::

[Echo35]

Sir, your offenses against the raid starship cannot be left unanswered. We will resolve our differences via duel. ::monocle::

I believe our differences will be best resolved through a round of fisticuffs.

[Lancefighter]

Also, the comment about the core fabricator was just me musing about things; As a somewhat fluent modder of x3tc, and a ex-modder of homeworld 2, I look deeper into things than your average player, it seems. A player would look at that and say "yes, it can only build battle cruisers", whereas I look at it and say "thats a waste of resources, having one per type of core ship..."

Although I could be wrong, and it could be a clever use of calling description and name strings in the right place. I'm not quite at the same level of understanding with the ai war engine as I am the engine of x3tc...

Well, in the end, it doesnt truely matter - x4000 has pretty much said thats the point of the core fabricators, so I've nothing really to argue about

I'm not sure why that would be a waste of resources; ship types don't cost me anything, and it fits the model I wanted, and it was by far the quickest thing to code.  My resources are my own time, and money I have to spend on other staff and overhead that are relating to the game.  My way was the most resource-efficient way to do it from a programming standpoint, and from a design standpoint it was simply what I'd been looking for:  A ship class that you can build in only one location, so that you have oodles of incentive to protect that single location if you want to continue having that ship class.

I guess that would be the difference between x3tc's engine and yours then; my mistake.

[x4000]

Sir, your offenses against the raid starship cannot be left unanswered. We will resolve our differences via duel. ::monocle::

I believe our differences will be best resolved through a round of fisticuffs.

To both of you.

[x4000]

No worries, Lancefighter.

[Snowman]

The zenith power generator at start is a bug, right ?

[x4000]

The zenith power generator at start is a bug, right ?

Yep, it's accidental test code that was left in.  Feel free to just delete that starting one to have a regular game!

[Spikey00]

(Complex IMO was the best mod for HW2!  Well, maybe PDS; afterwards, some mod that escapes my mind that adds the HW 1 races. // Must spam Fighters and Vettes, along with platforms with disruption probes.)

Though, I still think I will use the Raid line--depends until I try them out in-game. 

[FFLaguna]

The zenith power generator at start is a bug, right ?

Yep, it's accidental test code that was left in.  Feel free to just delete that starting one to have a regular game!

Not deleting it makes for an exciting game! I had to double turrets and increase ship presences.

[Lancefighter]

deleting it means ai progress goes up to 30 at the start :\ can we start with an AI data center next patch to make up for it?

[x4000]

deleting it means ai progress goes up to 30 at the start :\ can we start with an AI data center next patch to make up for it?

Adding in a new bug to fix the old one strikes me as likely to cause more trouble than it is worth.  Just consider it a freebie on energy if you don't want to delete it, I'd say.

[Lancefighter]

aww come on :\ its only slightly unbalancing... Either way you go. Especially if you happen to draw a backdoor hacker out of the random pile...

edit
erm for the record, the post about the datacenter was mostly a joke, although it would be nice

[x4000]

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