All I wanted to do was play AVWW

[DrTall]

So I got A Valley Without Wind last week and thought I was hooked until I learned about AI War via the shared wiki. Woah. How did I miss this game??

I just finished my first game (7 hours) and am beginning to understand the wiki and all the terms. Just thought I'd say hi and that I'm quite impressed with both of these games!

[x4000]

Cheers!  That is seriously awesome to hear on both counts.

We're pretty fond of both games ourselves, so we're always particularly tickled when someone likes both.  They're pretty different! 

[keith.lamothe]

Very glad to hear you're enjoying them

[zoutzakje]

yeah I often have plans for what games I want to play. I want to play Titan Quest, Killing Floor, Dwarf fortress, about a dozen of wii games, but in the end I always seem to end up with AI war lol. It's addictive like that
Unfortunately this game is kind of easy to miss I had never heard about AI war until I found it while randomly searching for space games on Steam, more than a year after initial release. I'm glad I did find it though.

[barryvm]

How did I miss this game??

Second that, I could have had months of practice by now.
I found this game through a few post on other forums but it seems it did get quite good reviews all over the place so no idea why it remained relatively obscure.
It certainly deservers far more publicity.

I had totally given up on RTS games: they are mostly spam- and clickfests or always winnable using a few select strategies or units.
This game packs a huge amount of innovative ideas and every game mechanic fits in really well.
I don't even miss player vs player games: why bother if you can play against a truly EVIL computer.
With the new customizations at the start of the game (another great update) you can even choose how you're gonna get killed this time.
(some of the options/plots should have a "this is lethal" warning label though or go straight through to the losing screen)

[keith.lamothe]

I don't even miss player vs player games: why bother if you can play against a truly EVIL computer.

"AI: PvP?  You could just turn the difficulty down."

[Wingflier]

I want to play Titan Quest,

Ewwww...why?

Killing Floor,

That's fun to play with friends.

Dwarf fortress,

I can see you're a masochist.

about a dozen of wii games,

Uhhhh, no.

but in the end I always seem to end up with AI war lol. It's addictive like that

Compared to the listed alternatives, I can see why you play AI War.

In all seriousness though, my friends and I play both AI War and Killing Floor on Steam, so add me as Wingflier if you wanna play with us.

[Cyborg]

I want to play Titan Quest,

It's fun. It's like Diablo 2 but better.

Killing Floor,

You need friends to play with. Single player isn't that great but multiplayer is a blast and a half.

Dwarf fortress,

Learning it is a joy. There is no shame in getting the "lazy newb pack."

about a dozen of wii games,

I agree. For example, monster Hunter tri is a guilty pleasure of mine. I prefer games that you can play with a controller, not that arm waving silliness.

[PokerChen]

How did I miss this game??

Second that, I could have had months of practice by now.
I found this game through a few post on other forums but it seems it did get quite good reviews all over the place so no idea why it remained relatively obscure.
It certainly deservers far more publicity.

Market saturation from big-name publishers and over-exploited licenses are eating up a lot of people's attention spans... I personally find games like Wargame: European Escalation and Path of Exile have a lot of potential, but are otherwise inhibited by exposure or lack of idiot-proof tutorials. Maybe a lot of n00bs just have to be spoon-fed nowadays...

[zoutzakje]

Compared to the listed alternatives, I can see why you play AI War.

In all seriousness though, my friends and I play both AI War and Killing Floor on Steam, so add me as Wingflier if you wanna play with us.

That's actually just a few examples of games I play. I got over 300 steam games I want to play / try out. Furthermore a few good old GBA, DS and gamecube games as well. I don't think there will be enough hours in my life to play all the games I want
And I will add you on steam once I can get my community page to work. For now I got plenty of people to play AI war with, but more people to mess around with in KF is always nice.

[barryvm]

Market saturation from big-name publishers and over-exploited licenses are eating up a lot of people's attention spans

I agree.

The current focus on better graphics (which means larger budgets) also leads to a situation where you have a few large publishers who do not dare take any risks to try out innovative concepts and gameplay but just stick to making tons of games using the same old formula's.

I haven't bought any "mainstream" game since I discovered the wealth of (so-called) indie games that have less spectacular graphics but offer a more varied gameplay.

[madcow]

Killing floor is awesome, its the only FPS I really play, very solid shooting mechanics. Shame my internet isn't really capable of playing it anymore (the singleplayer mode isn't worth the time).

To the OP I find that "issue" hilarious.

I had AI war for the longest time on a steam sale but never got around to playing it until fairly recently myself. What was wrong with me!

[zoutzakje]

I actually play singleplayer KF more than multiplayer. Achievement hunter that I am, I prefer to rely on my own skills (because I know they're decent). In multiplayer games I've often noticed that low lvl people join high difficulty games. And it never works out right lol. If I play multiplayer, it's usually just on normal difficulty. That way I know I can still beat the game if the rest of my team dies lol.

[madcow]

Oh, I had a group of friends I played it with. That way I know even if the rest of the team sucks, it would be fun to try going against the odds and pull through. We started playing on hard and never looked back. The way classes work, its just not very fun to play solo in my opinion (soloing dual FPs as commando would take forever and likely just ain't happening).

[zoutzakje]

well, to be honest, only playing as a berzerker is fun in singleplayer. It's powerful, you're constantly moving and killing FPs with your katana or claymore (or xbow) is a fun thing to do ^^
The second best class for solo is support specialist, but that's not really interesting. Find a good spot, stand still and aim towards the direction where all the enemies come from and just shoot them all to bits with your shotguns. Works great for getting achievs, but does get kind of boring

Anyhow, sorry for derailing the thread, but I guess that's kind of normal around here