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Title: AI War Official 8.017-8.019 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: x4000 on October 08, 2014, 05:02:06 pm
Original: http://arcengames.com/ai-war-official-8-017-boost-this-released/

This one is another performance update, this time on the CPU and RAM sides.  The munitions boosters were the big culprit here, but there are other more minor effects beyond that.

UPDATE: 8.018 turned out to be necessary, because the prior version was giving the "spinning beachball of death" on OSX.  Apologies for that -- we almost never run into platform-specific bugs of that sort, but the new version of garbage collector stretching code turns out to only work (or be needed) on windows.  So the OSX and linux builds now use the "tame" version of that logic, which works great for them, and the windows build still uses the new aggressive logic that it requires.

UPDATE: 8.019 makes some more changes to prevent an out of memory exception that two people (one of them being myself) were able to get on windows machines.

Enjoy!

This is a standard update that you can download through the in-game updater itself, if you already have 4.000 or later. When you launch the game, you'll see the notice of the update having been found if you're connected to the Internet at the time. If you don't have 4.000 or later, you can download that here.
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: doctorfrog on October 08, 2014, 05:19:52 pm
For whatever reason, the issue where the graphics load dog-slow on my machine has resolved (again) with this update. I'll let you know when it breaks again. ;D
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: Bud Backer on October 08, 2014, 06:21:13 pm
Oh boy.

Game is totally unplayable now. Will not load. I get the spinning beach ball in the loading screen. "GameInit 4"

I've redownloaded it fully from Steam after uninstalling it and deleting the remains that get left behind after uninstallation.

Help!!


Pertinent info:

OSX 10.9.5
2.7 GHz I7 Quad Core
NVidia GT650M 1 GB VRAM
16 GM Ram
MacBookPro Retina

oh, and 1 shot glass of blended scotch. :P
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: Sounds on October 08, 2014, 06:25:51 pm
Oh boy.

Game is totally unplayable now. Will not load. I get the spinning beach ball in the loading screen.

I've redownloaded it fully from Steam after uninstalling it and deleting the remains that get left behind after uninstallation.

Help!!

I was about to write up the same thing, but you beat me to it. :)

So yeah the game now crashes when I try to select the settings icon. Any ideas?
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: Tokyodan on October 08, 2014, 07:24:06 pm
On my 27" 2009 iMac running Mavericks the game will load and display the mani menu but clicking on anything in the main menu gives me the spinning beachball of death.
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: x4000 on October 08, 2014, 07:43:13 pm
Hey guys, this appears to be an OSX-specific thing.  I can duplicate it on my Mac (Mavericks), too.  Working on a fix now...
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.018 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: x4000 on October 08, 2014, 08:04:58 pm
UPDATE: 8.018 turned out to be necessary, because the prior version was giving the "spinning beachball of death" on OSX.  Apologies for that -- we almost never run into platform-specific bugs of that sort, but the new version of garbage collector stretching code turns out to only work (or be needed) on windows.  So the OSX and linux builds now use the "tame" version of that logic, which works great for them, and the windows build still uses the new aggressive logic that it requires.
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: x4000 on October 08, 2014, 08:05:49 pm
For whatever reason, the issue where the graphics load dog-slow on my machine has resolved (again) with this update. I'll let you know when it breaks again. ;D

Hahaha -- hopefully it stays around, we'll see.  I am wondering if perhaps the Application.targetFramerate usage is what was causing the issue before.  It's possible!
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.018 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: Bud Backer on October 08, 2014, 09:59:05 pm
Wow that was fast! Thanks, Chris, much appreciated. I was able to get in the game, and start a campaign, and no flicker either. So totally awesome, thank you!


Ps: couple times today I was unable to access the web site. I had an error that was not error 404 but something unusual, saying the server was there but the site was not. FYI, as its not just the forum but all Arcengames,com that was inaccessible.
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.018 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: x4000 on October 08, 2014, 10:06:27 pm
My pleasure!  Glad that worked well for you. :)

For the website, that's rackspace having some sort of temporary load issue, and cloudflare giving you the message.  I'm not sure what the issue is exactly, but rackspace tends to sort those out pretty quickly.  Thanks for the note, though!
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.018 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: Sounds on October 09, 2014, 01:47:49 am
Yep it works for me too. Thanks again for the quick turn around. I'm looking forward to the weekend for a late nighter of AI War.

I'm hopeless at this game, but I always have a blast with this one. Fingers crossed I finally get a win in. :P
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.018 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: x4000 on October 09, 2014, 08:37:25 am
Good luck! :)
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.018 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: tadrinth on October 09, 2014, 08:54:13 am
For the website, that's rackspace having some sort of temporary load issue, and cloudflare giving you the message.  I'm not sure what the issue is exactly, but rackspace tends to sort those out pretty quickly.  Thanks for the note, though!

I've seen it happen pretty reliably after adding screenshots to a forum post, if that helps. 
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.018 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: x4000 on October 09, 2014, 09:01:49 am
It might be some sort of caching thing on wordpress, then, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.019 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: x4000 on October 09, 2014, 09:04:53 am
UPDATE: 8.019 makes some more changes to prevent an out of memory exception that two people (one of them being myself) were able to get on windows machines.
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.019 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: RockyBst on October 12, 2014, 07:43:34 am
Happy to confirm that this has had a major performance improvement. 5,000 ship battles which previously took me down to about 7FPS are running at more like 25, while the real large-scale battles of 10,000+ ships are running about 6FPS, but seem far smoother.

Still getting that crash to desktop when trying to get back to the menu though, for some reason.
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.019 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: damiac on October 17, 2014, 12:54:25 pm
I finally registered on the forum after a while of lurking because this latest update has caused some weird graphical issues for me.  Firstly, I had some bizarre screen tearing when I scrolled up, which turning v-synch on did fix.

But whenever I move a clump of ships around, it just looks horrible, because each ship has this sort of light grey background behind it, which is slightly transparent, and they stack up, so you get this weird whitish flickering border around some of the ships.  I'm not sure which of the latest patches caused this behavior, but in this latest patch there are still some flickering/graphical issues.

However, the performance is noticeably better, so it's worth it overall.
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.019 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: DrFranknfurter on October 21, 2014, 05:57:26 pm
That sounds odd... but I've had a bit of graphic flickering too to report as of the most recent patch. (engineers and turrets, not the big stacks of ships) Not much and not too annoying and tricky to replicate (changing settings repeatedly didn't fix it... though I thought it had at first. I can't get it to repeat now but I wasn't imaging it). I was going to put a bug ticket in, though I don't know what to include in the way of savegames or useful supporting information. (I could record the screen *if* I could get it to do it again... and then provide my computer settings - graphics card, OS etc. Some of the previous graphics bugs were operating system specific... but I'm Windows 7, didn't get a chance to play on the previous few versions so only noticed it this weekend)

To Damiac. I'm sure they'll get around to looking at it but I think they're out of the office this week. (The Last Federation post mentioned having things to deal with for a week and there's a massive team of 2 (plus the odd artistic helper). I doubt it'll take a great deal longer for them to get around to it once they're back.) If you've made one account to post here then you may not know that the bug tracker is here:
http://www.arcengames.com/mantisbt/my_view_page.php
It'll need a new account, but you can probably use the same name.

Personally I quite enjoy the look of seeing bugs change from red (unassigned) to blue (different shades for different things) to green (fixed). Though I wish I had more time to report them (and play full games). Also it's easier to upload files there, and you get an email if they ask you for more information. Which helps you if it's something that's really bugging you or stopping you from playing. (And you get an email when an old reported bug gets fixed... you can probably change the email alerts too... if you report lots of bugs, it's not a problem for a rare bug poster like me.)

Anyway, they read posts here too so I think for little things it's what's easier for you. It's certainly easier to chat about things here than on the bug tracker, especially if the bug is odd or hard to explain. (as with my intermittent flickering and your light grey backgrounds... though screenshots may help as well as your operating system, graphics drivers or whatever they ask for.
Title: Re: AI War Official 8.017-8.019 "Boost THIS!" Released!
Post by: x4000 on October 18, 2016, 12:58:47 pm
New version: http://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,19272.0.html