Author Topic: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!  (Read 7757 times)

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2014, 01:50:00 pm »
Would it be a much of a hassle to add auto-upgrade or manual upgrade to turrets since higher marks are now straightforwards upgrades?

Except for energy concerns (1200 * mk!).  And the fact that you can have both on the same planet.

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2014, 02:09:39 pm »
Would it be a much of a hassle to add auto-upgrade or manual upgrade to turrets since higher marks are now straightforwards upgrades?
I don't know that they'll always remain so (making the energy cost not completely flat, to give a reason to use lower mark ones, etc), and in any event since the caps are not mutually exclusive (like harvesters) I don't think it's really a fit.




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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2014, 02:12:19 pm »
Would it be a much of a hassle to add auto-upgrade or manual upgrade to turrets since higher marks are now straightforwards upgrades?

Except for energy concerns (1200 * mk!).  And the fact that you can have both on the same planet.

Just so you know.. thats no longer true. All marks have same energy cost now.

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2014, 02:15:41 pm »
Would it be a much of a hassle to add auto-upgrade or manual upgrade to turrets since higher marks are now straightforwards upgrades?

Except for energy concerns (1200 * mk!).  And the fact that you can have both on the same planet.

Just so you know.. thats no longer true. All marks have same energy cost now.

You were ninja'd by Keith:

I don't know that they'll always remain so (making the energy cost not completely flat)

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2014, 02:41:27 pm »
Would it be a much of a hassle to add auto-upgrade or manual upgrade to turrets since higher marks are now straightforwards upgrades?
I don't know that they'll always remain so (making the energy cost not completely flat, to give a reason to use lower mark ones, etc), and in any event since the caps are not mutually exclusive (like harvesters) I don't think it's really a fit.

If you're trying to really defend a world, that you can have more turrets is a reason to use the lower mark ones. If you're trying to save on power, not so much of course.

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2014, 03:50:31 pm »
Ok I might have missed something... but where did my nomad beacon go when I captured it's planed...
It was there waiting nicely and the it kinda disappeared when I captured the planet I think. And I noticed it to late to go back to autosave :|

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2014, 04:07:06 pm »
Ok I might have missed something... but where did my nomad beacon go when I captured it's planed...
It was there waiting nicely and the it kinda disappeared when I captured the planet I think. And I noticed it to late to go back to autosave :|
If you don't hack the beacon beforehand the AI failsafes will destroy the beacon. From your message I think that you forgot to use a hacker to disable the failsafes before capturing the planet.

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2014, 04:25:17 pm »
Ok I might have missed something... but where did my nomad beacon go when I captured it's planed...
It was there waiting nicely and the it kinda disappeared when I captured the planet I think. And I noticed it to late to go back to autosave :|
If you don't hack the beacon beforehand the AI failsafes will destroy the beacon. From your message I think that you forgot to use a hacker to disable the failsafes before capturing the planet.
Yeah that would be it. I guess I'll need to check the other expansion option then..  8)

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2014, 05:37:39 pm »
Ok I think I'm being dense today.
I went to AI planet and built Exile Survey Hacker.  And exactly nothing happens - does it need supply or something like that?

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2014, 05:51:11 pm »
Check your map: Exile filter. Should show one spot and the ones you've hacked.

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2014, 05:53:44 pm »
It shows one spot. Other one I hacked earlier is not shown at all. And the planet I'm trying to hack was not touched before.

Reported here:
http://www.arcengames.com/mantisbt/view.php?id=15477

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Metal spots seem to travel after every game load now.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 06:00:06 pm by orzelek »

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2014, 06:56:07 pm »
I am now with 7.041 getting the harvester reset message when a Wave has hit a planet and the last AI ship on the planet leaves / is destroyed.
It is not always reproducible, the attached savegame is where it happened but I couldn`t reproduce it with this or the following wave :/
It's possible that the planet needs its harvesters reset from the shift to 7.041 and wasn't realizing it until it tried to (re-)build a harvester.  Does it keep happening repeatedly on the same planet?
As it seems the positions are wrongly generated even at the start of the game currently, this may have been what cause this

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2014, 07:17:56 pm »
It shows one spot. Other one I hacked earlier is not shown at all. And the planet I'm trying to hack was not touched before.

Reported here:
http://www.arcengames.com/mantisbt/view.php?id=15477

PS.
Metal spots seem to travel after every game load now.

I tried it and nothing happens when I survey hack. Tried two planets.

It has worked in a game I have going, so I'm not sure what is going on there.

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2014, 07:22:36 pm »
Are those planets within range of the first one?

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Re: AI War Beta 7.036-7.041 "Sanding Before The Storm" Released!
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2014, 07:47:22 pm »
Yes, the first planet shows 5 hops. The two I tried were 2 and 3 hops from that.