AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!

[LaughingThesaurus]

Here's the trick though. Those ships that you steal with that hacking are ships the AI will always have. You can never get rid of them if you hack to steal them. So, you'd better be good at dealing with the Artillerist's ships if you intend to steal them.

[keith.lamothe]

Yea, the ability to steal (or corrupt) does add a bit of a silver lining to some types like Zenith Descendant or Spireling, but it's definitely doesn't make it into "I know, I'll play against an Everything for an easy game!"

[LaughingThesaurus]

There's an interesting catch-22 with playing against Everything. You do that on a 10 planet map, you can get like 20 new ship types for one easy hack. The thing is, you will never be hacking again after that and you will never have the knowledge to actually upgrade your ships.

[keith.lamothe]

Playing against on Everything on a 10 planet map should only be done to explore new and exciting forms of death

[PokerChen]

Here's the trick though. Those ships that you steal with that hacking are ships the AI will always have. You can never get rid of them if you hack to steal them. So, you'd better be good at dealing with the Artillerist's ships if you intend to steal them.

Of course. Moreover, if there are, say, 3 sniper-types and 3 gravity-vulnerable types you're up against, I think it's cheaper to spend regular K unlocking (1) Riot-III for gravs and keep sufficient number of scouts-starships. You can then be both immune and able to out-artillery an average AI planet.

[Draco18s]

Playing against on Everything on a 10 planet map should only be done to explore new and exciting forms of death

I'm totally going to do that and cement my position as one of the few people to "legitimately"* obtain a double godlike.

Or die trying.

*Ten planets, two turtle AIs, 8 starting homeworlds.  Yeah....

[LaughingThesaurus]

8 homeplanets on a 10 planet map is suicide though. You have no military and are adjacent to the AI homeworlds.

[keith.lamothe]

8 homeplanets on a 10 planet map is suicide though. You have no military and are adjacent to the AI homeworlds.

With 8 HWs you can go from zero military to Limburger Fleet in, I'm guessing, two or three minutes

[Draco18s]

8 homeplanets on a 10 planet map is suicide though. You have no military and are adjacent to the AI homeworlds.

With 8 HWs you can go from zero military to Limburger Fleet in, I'm guessing, two or three minutes

Against a turtle AI you don't have to worry about waves, which is the all important detail that allowed me to win.

And it still took me three attempts, Limburger Fleet or no.

[Toranth]

8 homeplanets on a 10 planet map is suicide though. You have no military and are adjacent to the AI homeworlds.

With 8 HWs you can go from zero military to Limburger Fleet in, I'm guessing, two or three minutes

Against a turtle AI you don't have to worry about waves, which is the all important detail that allowed me to win.

And it still took me three attempts, Limburger Fleet or no.

If the AI HW's have multiple Core Raid Engines, even two or three minutes won't be enough.
But otherwise, yeah, unlock Mk II of everything, and just swarm.  Toss in a few (dozen) warheads and it's just fireworks for your Cheese Festival.

[Draco18s]

Core Raid Engines

When I did it such things didn't exist.

[LaughingThesaurus]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Raid engines or core raid engines would completely slaughter you before you had any kind of fleet up. That exact thing happened to me. I loaded a 10 planet multihomeworld game just for fun and died in like 2 minutes.

[keith.lamothe]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Raid engines or core raid engines would completely slaughter you before you had any kind of fleet up. That exact thing happened to me. I loaded a 10 planet multihomeworld game just for fun and died in like 2 minutes.

Hmm, seems like some lightning warheads would take care of the initial waves long enough to assassinate the engine, but I can see how the overall situation would be untenable

[LaughingThesaurus]

Well, I didn't die, but I had like a lot of ships attacking me before I could even build anything. It's one of those "Okay, gg" situations.