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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2013, 11:04:24 am »
Wait what? Have I been missing something super incredibly useful here?
Around here somewhere, I'm sure :)

All I'm talking about is pressing F1 while not on the galaxy map, and the sidebar switches into a sort of encyclopedia mode.  It starts with non-mark stuff, then if you press F1 again it switches to mk-1 stuff, and so on.  It can take a while to load the images.


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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2013, 02:57:55 pm »
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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2013, 09:30:42 pm »
.. Now you have said the new Design Backups are able to integrate into existing games and we will get ones only for ships the AI has unlocked. How does that work with an existing game and how does that work with a new game? Does it seed them as the game goes on and make new ones as the AI unlocks more and more ships? Or does it just seed a LOT of them that only come online as the AI unlocks more units?

Also, I know this only affects bonus units, and not something crazy like preventing the AI from building base units that it and you always get, (Because making the AI give up all its Bombers and Raid Starhips, while entertaining as the idea may be, is completely broken) but does it only include fleetships? Could you save get a Design Backup for Spire Corvettes or, even crazier, Warbird Starships? ...
I upgraded to 7.007 in a game where I'd already scouted every planet, and four Design Backups appeared.  One was for Zenith Devastators which one of the AIs had as a bonus pick, so presumably Spire Corvettes would be possible.  But there were no Design Backups for Warbirds or Raid Starships or Bombers or anything like that, only each AI's two bonus ships.
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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2013, 01:43:21 am »
The game I was just in, the ai was spamming 100's of zenith processors (absolutely crush most my fleets). And was thinking how cool it would be if I could somehow stop that.



This patch is very nice!

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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2013, 03:35:10 pm »
Are Exotic waves supposed to act like counter-waves/Warp Jumper?

My current, non-AAR game [will get back to that soon, I swear] is 3 player, 7/7 Random All/Random All, trader dyson 4 botnet medium [meant to do golems medium] Fallen Spire 1/10, Hunter 4/10 on AI 1. We got Mine Enthusiast/Exotic and Starfleet Commander/Warp Jumper.

Except the exo-waves are also warp jumping.

At least we didn't get Raid Engine/One Way Doormaster Vicious Exotic/Mad Bomber like my last attempt at singleplayer.
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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2013, 03:53:12 pm »
Are Exotic waves supposed to act like counter-waves/Warp Jumper?

My current, non-AAR game [will get back to that soon, I swear] is 3 player, 7/7 Random All/Random All, trader dyson 4 botnet medium [meant to do golems medium] Fallen Spire 1/10, Hunter 4/10 on AI 1. We got Mine Enthusiast/Exotic and Starfleet Commander/Warp Jumper.

Except the exo-waves are also warp jumping.

At least we didn't get Raid Engine/One Way Doormaster Vicious Exotic/Mad Bomber like my last attempt at singleplayer.
Is your Warp Jumper AI 1?  I think there's an existing bug where all exowaves from Vengeful and Exotic AIs belong to AI 1, even if the actual AI in question is AI 2.
Because that bug aside, I am certain that they should not be acting that way.

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« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2013, 03:58:25 pm »
Nope, warp jumper is AI 2.
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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2013, 05:54:30 pm »
I'm pretty sure there's a few bugs lurking with AI subtypes, I'm seeing something similar in my game (which I'll be posting another update on this weekend, promise).  I've got a technologist/mad bomber as AI 2, and I'm seeing some AI 1 ships (especially special forces) get the technologist boost, and some AI 1 waves appear to be getting the mad bomber bonus as well.

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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2013, 02:55:40 pm »
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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2013, 03:30:10 am »
So... the everything AI will spam the galaxy with its backup servers, I presume?

...and you can  hack all of the designs at once on a single planet for 50 HaP?

*thinks about a 10-planet game with two everything AIs*

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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2013, 02:16:54 am »
So... the everything AI will spam the galaxy with its backup servers, I presume?

...and you can  hack all of the designs at once on a single planet for 50 HaP?

*thinks about a 10-planet game with two everything AIs*
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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2013, 10:29:13 am »
So... the everything AI will spam the galaxy with its backup servers, I presume?

...and you can  hack all of the designs at once on a single planet for 50 HaP?

*thinks about a 10-planet game with two everything AIs*
You don't need to imagine it.
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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2013, 06:22:23 pm »
The real question is - do you run the Downloader or the Corruptor?

The answer is: yes.

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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2013, 10:31:32 am »
Using one locks out the other.  You'd definitely be better off using the downloader.  The corruptor just reduces the variety of AI ships, where the downloader increases your overall quantity.
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Re: AI War Beta 7.006-7.007 "Design Meddling" Released!
« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2013, 10:53:57 am »
Keith:
Having not played with these new hacking things yet (want to try and finish my current game first), I have to ask: is it possible to have both types going at once (through multiple hackers)?  If so, what happens?