AI War Beta 6.005 "Burning The Candle At Both Ends" Released!

[TechSY730]

Yeah, but 100k is really low.  It probably should come up some.

It makes the planet that it's on immune to waves and prevents reinforcements, two major mechanics that the AI makes use of throughout the game. I think the ability to die really really fast to raid starship threat is perfectly fine for something that's that good.

That makes sense. If that is indeed the reason, that seems reasonable.

I mean, even the sprite for it looks rather flimsy compared to the normal command stations.

[Kahuna]

What "100k"??

[TechSY730]

What "100k"??

OK fine, 100k - 1, picky you.

If you meant "what is the 'k' part?" that is an abbreviation for 1000^*. So 100k would be 100 thousand = 100000


^*unless you are talking about binary data, in which case it could be 1000 or 1024, because we computer scientist love to confuse ourselves like that

[Kahuna]

What "100k"??

OK fine, 100k - 1, picky you.

If you meant "what is the 'k' part?" that is an abbreviation for 1000^*. So 100k would be 100 thousand = 100000


^*unless you are talking about binary data, in which case it could be 1000 or 1024, because we computer scientist love to confuse ourselves like that

Yeah, but 100k is really low.  It probably should come up some.

I have no idea what he's talking about O_o that's what I meant.

[TechSY730]

Yeah, but 100k is really low.  It probably should come up some.

I have no idea what he's talking about O_o that's what I meant.

Oh.

He and I are talking about the warp jammer command station's health.

[Kahuna]

Trains no longer spawn during mapgen, but about every 20 minutes the game will check to see if the number of trains in the game is less than the "supplied population" of trains (which is based on plot intensity and whether the AI in question is a Train Master), and if there's room it spawns a group of trains at a randomly selected station.

10/10 Train Masters with 10/10 Astro Trains! I choose you!
AI uses: Spawn Trains!
Kahuna uses: /set me SadPanda
AI uses: Send in the EMP Astro Trains!
Kahuna uses: Face Desk!
AI uses: Send in the Nuclear Astro Trains!
*You Lose*
*It's Super Effective!*

[keith.lamothe]

10/10 Train Masters with 10/10 Astro Trains! I choose you!

That will get very messy

Which is, of course, why you would do it.

[TechSY730]

Will the EMP and Nuke trains (and to a lesser extent, FF jammer trains) have a reduced spawn rate compared to the rest?

Also, I have trains turned on in my current game. Any way to turn them off legitimately?

[zoutzakje]

if I read keith's posts correctly, you won't see EMP and Nuke trains unless you got a high astro train intensity scaling. And even then I think it's still pretty rare to see them.

[TechSY730]

if I read keith's posts correctly, you won't see EMP and Nuke trains unless you got a high astro train intensity scaling. And even then I think it's still pretty rare to see them.

Oh, I missed that bit.
Ok, that makes me feel a bit better.


Will "vanilla" and turret trains be removed upon loading the game?
Will "standalone" trains be removed upon loading the game?
Or will they just "inherit" the new logic, just by themselves instead of with a group (aka, be in a group of 1)?

[zoutzakje]

oh, I've also read about this. All existing trains in existing save games will be no more, as the mechanic for the new trains is different. The stations will spawn the new trains over time. Turret trains and such will cease to exist as well. None of the new trains have guns, they just have a certain effect.

I think that's what the patchnotes say.

[KDR_11k]

Question.

Is there a reason why the warp jammer command station has a measly 99,999 HP?

When it was introduced that was the regular value for MkI commands. Home Commands had 299,999 HP. Damage numbers simply inflated like mad. The 6x10k weapon on a Black Hole Machine used to be pretty good for killing stuff and spec ops posts could really lay the smack down.

[TechSY730]

Question.

Is there a reason why the warp jammer command station has a measly 99,999 HP?

When it was introduced that was the regular value for MkI commands. Home Commands had 299,999 HP. Damage numbers simply inflated like mad. The 6x10k weapon on a Black Hole Machine used to be pretty good for killing stuff and spec ops posts could really lay the smack down.

Yea, it would be nice if the "inflation" of HP and damage could be "undone" some, if for no other reason than not having to look at so many 0s.

Then again, there are some advantages to high values, like allowing for more "fine tuned" adjustments without having to resort to non-integral numbers. (Not that the current game's balance takes advantage of this, but you could).

[Lancefighter]

It was incredibly jarring loading up 2.0 and seeing that the mrls dealt like 80 damage per shot. INCREDIBLY jarring. And that number turned out to be surprisingly average. It went up to 320 in 3.12 aat least. Also, the 3.12 install seems to have eaten my 2.0 install.. despite being in different places..

[TechSY730]

Hey Keith, any word on the Raid Eye bug?