Author Topic: AI War Beta 5.070-5.071 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!  (Read 19589 times)

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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2012, 01:34:28 pm »
I'll throw a line out and wait how long it takes till Keith finds it.

There is a problem with the Fortress King's forts itself.
Not getting it :)

When I tested them they were:
a) acting as a command station
b) being hard to kill
c) killing human ships in droves
d) mounting modules
e) not causing missing-texture or missing-loca errors

Which, I think, are the only 5 things required of them ;)

Unless you mean finding a problem with the line itself, as grammatically I would expect it to be "There is a problem with the Fortress King's forts themselves."
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« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2012, 01:36:42 pm »
Always there is a problem. I have faith you will find it. Perhaps this will help.
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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #62 on: August 24, 2012, 01:58:27 pm »
Lol.

Now I want to get in on this but I won't be able to look at the game until tomorrow.

Having said, based on chem-art's last comment, I'm guessing the description is screwed up somehow?

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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #63 on: August 24, 2012, 02:08:10 pm »
Since "I Am Become Death, Destroyer Of Forcefields" is too long, "Siege Master".

Sniper stuff could be included, but I think it would dilute it ;)

Good point, wouldn't want to dilute the Siege Master.

Perhaps there's room for Sniper and Gravity Sniper AIs.

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Snipers, Sentinel Frigate, Sniper  Guardians, Radar Jammer (Mk1 only, no Mk2); (Lockdown:) Spider Bots, Riot Control Starships, Spider Guardians, Tractor Guardians, NOT tractor platforms (by default, at least, still available randomly), Paralyzers might be overboard
Gravity Sniper:
Snipers, Sentinel Frigates, Sniper Guardians, Gravity Drills(!), Gravity Guardians, Gravity Rippers, Gravity Drains

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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #64 on: August 24, 2012, 02:18:36 pm »
An AI that heavily abused logistics command stations (or, worse, grav drills) and riot control starships... yea, maybe give an achievement for winning without breaking any keyboards.
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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #65 on: August 24, 2012, 02:43:58 pm »
An AI that heavily abused logistics command stations (or, worse, grav drills) and riot control starships...

Considering that I consider gravity drills to be made of the sweetest candy that ever existed, I'd love that AI. ;)
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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #66 on: August 24, 2012, 03:11:22 pm »
An AI that heavily abused logistics command stations (or, worse, grav drills) and riot control starships...

Considering that I consider gravity drills to be made of the sweetest candy that ever existed, I'd love that AI. ;)
Engine damage -> bring engineers/mobile platforms.
The Grav Driller is one of the more frustrating (albeit not hard) AIs I've faced. Even moreso when you're a champion :P
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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #67 on: August 24, 2012, 03:24:36 pm »
An AI that heavily abused logistics command stations (or, worse, grav drills) and riot control starships...

Considering that I consider gravity drills to be made of the sweetest candy that ever existed, I'd love that AI. ;)
Engine damage -> bring engineers/mobile platforms.
I agree;  Grav Driller is my favorite AI type.  Resources + Chokepoint all in one!  In fact, I'm always disappointed that even on Diff 10, a Grav Driller AI doesn't even get 50% systems with drills :(

And I've always wondered why the Grav Driller AI type doesn't get auto-unlock of the Gravity Drain and Gravity Ripper ship types, plus a bonus to Gravity Guardian spawn rates.



Always there is a problem. I have faith you will find it. Perhaps this will help.
There're actually two problems, one major, one minor.  The minor one is very amusing, I'll agree.
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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #68 on: August 24, 2012, 03:47:39 pm »
Appreciate your keeping my fun going. Inevitably it will come out. Please and thank you for extending my fun.
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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #69 on: August 24, 2012, 05:34:46 pm »
Siege ships have very small amount of engine health for their cap and hp (1k).

Is this intentional?
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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #70 on: August 24, 2012, 05:36:51 pm »
Siege ships have very small amount of engine health for their cap and hp (1k).

Is this intentional?
I think it was at the time :)

When you approach ship design as "build gun, attach engine", certain corners get cut.
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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2012, 05:38:52 pm »
It's fine, although I laugh when rotters have over twice the cap and individually are much more frail but have 100k...so I thought I'd ask  :)
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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2012, 05:43:38 pm »
Siege ships have very small amount of engine health for their cap and hp (1k).

Is this intentional?
I think it was at the time :)

When you approach ship design as "build gun, attach engine", certain corners get cut.

Haha, I'm picturing the ship as basically a giant gun with thrusters welded on to it. I haven't gotten to see it, so it's kinda funny to take some of these things out of context.

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Re: AI War Beta 5.070 "The Once And Fortress King" Released!
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2012, 05:45:24 pm »
Heh.

I'm remembering one of the old dreadnaught revamps back before the Plasma Siege was settled on, the description went something like:

"Not so much a ship as a gun with engines strapped to it...."

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« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2012, 06:13:24 pm »
As much as I bash the zenith sieges, they are currently the only ship that can efficiently clean out the fortress king in my experience so far, and even it takes two full assaults till I get them to III that I can take the forts out.
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