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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #75 on: August 08, 2012, 08:47:06 pm »
As a question, will the expansion be available for preorder on Steam?
It's possible, but unlikely as they don't generally carry beta stuff.  They should also recognize keys bought from us but we can't guarantee it: if registers-on-steam is a 100% requirement for you then don't buy it until you can buy it direct from steam :)


Ah, okay - I thought they were more open to early-access betas, as I keep seeing ads for them frequently (e.g., the new CounterStrike game being promoted now).

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However, I'm curious as to the reasoning behind making champions take a separate player spot - was it the separate UI requirements, or balance, or limiting total stations and champions, or ...?
Mainly it's what was possible with the underlying code architecture (tracking a bunch of extra data about a player is a lot easier than doing it about a ship, particularly when it comes to the tech unlocks, and various other issues) and what the UI supports.


Gotcha. I figured it was something along those lines. One of these days I'd be curious to know about y'all's experience with Unity - one of the many, many things I've been curious about but lacked the time to delve into.

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handling the champion is obviously intended to be a "full-time job,"
Not really, you can just use it like a super-starship while you're in normal fleet-operations mode and go off on solo jaunts while you're waiting on refleets (that's actually one of the things I'm hoping to address with this: when you're refleeting you now have an alternative to Netflix! ;) )


That will be most welcome. I tend to have enough fabs that I don't have to wait too long, but I remember during the tutorial refleeting for my second (and third, if memory serves) homeworld strike took FOORRREEEEVVVEEERRR (like almost an hour apiece on +10 speed, IIRC).

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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2012, 08:52:03 pm »
Well, CounterStrike is a game by Valve, who own Steam. :)
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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #77 on: August 08, 2012, 08:54:37 pm »
Well, CounterStrike is a game by Valve, who own Steam. :)


Well, yes, I know that. :P But I've seen it for several other non-Valve games as well, though I can't remember any off the top of my head. Seems like they're advertising about 1 / wk to 1 / 2 wk.

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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #78 on: August 08, 2012, 08:55:08 pm »
Well, CounterStrike is a game by Valve, who own Steam. :)


Well, yes, I know that. :P But I've seen it for several other non-Valve games as well, though I can't remember any off the top of my head. Seems like they're advertising about 1 / wk to 1 / 2 wk.

True, fair enough.  Mostly just very large games though. :)
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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2012, 09:04:45 pm »
True, fair enough.  Mostly just very large games though. :)

If you want an example, FTL: Faster Than Light.

I think the devs consider it to still be in "alpha."

Endless Space also went beta on Steam, as did Natural Selection.

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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2012, 09:09:28 pm »
Since when has FTL been on steam? ???

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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2012, 09:11:13 pm »
Since when has FTL been on steam? ???
My exact thoughts.  That's the starship-roguelike, right?  Sign me up!
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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2012, 09:12:15 pm »
Since when has FTL been on steam? ???

Since about April 1st?

Oh right.

It's not visible on steam yet.

It's hypothetical store page is (not) at this url:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/212680/

(That is, FTL has an app-ID, and it is in my steam list and not as a "non-steam game" and when I play it Steam shows me as "In Game" with no game name listed, as I was given a steam key to activate my digital copy)

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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #83 on: August 08, 2012, 09:17:00 pm »
Drat, I thought they'd added on to the eventual beta. I've been wanting to try it.

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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #84 on: August 08, 2012, 09:18:14 pm »
Drat, I thought they'd added on to the eventual beta. I've been wanting to try it.

Yeah, I forgot that it was invisible, and that I had it via Kickstarter.

It's fairly ok.  Nothing spectacular.  The plot is neigh on non-existent and the pacing is forced.
Also, the first starting ship is basically the best.

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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #85 on: August 08, 2012, 09:22:19 pm »
Oh shiitake mushrooms I called it.

The FF in the hidden name being a frigate.

The H being human.

S I did not get though.
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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #86 on: August 08, 2012, 09:31:47 pm »
Oh shiitake mushrooms I called it.

The FF in the hidden name being a frigate.

The H being human.

S I did not get though.
Shadow :)
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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #87 on: August 08, 2012, 09:32:34 pm »
Oh shiitake mushrooms I called it.

The FF in the hidden name being a frigate.

The H being human.

S I did not get though.

That made me literally laugh out loud.  Nice.   :P
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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #88 on: August 08, 2012, 09:38:41 pm »
The H being human.

S I did not get though.

I got (but did not post) that H was likely "human" and that S was either "starbase" or similar.

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Re: AI War Beta 5.052-5.053 "From The Shadows" Released!
« Reply #89 on: August 08, 2012, 09:40:46 pm »
I got it was shadow after reading the starship name.

Should have taken a shot in the dark (slaps knee) and said shadows since it in the expansion name.
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