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Offline zoutzakje

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2013, 09:00:27 am »
Most annoying ship type has to be AI champions from Heroic AI type. Especially when the AIP reaches mk II/mk III threshold. Those buggers come with a whole group in waves and occasionally 1 or 2 attack one of your worlds without any warning. If you can't chokepoint properly on your map, OMD's from the trader are your best bet.

most fearsome ship has to be the H/K. They're easy to miss in an AI blob and their ram immunity makes them dreadful. If you got no golems, better make damn sure to have a huge turretball and at least mk III bombers. And I've only ever encountered mk I H/K's.... nasty things.

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2013, 05:20:06 am »
My top 5.
1. Plasma Siege Starship (10 million health/ship, high burst damage and long range. Bye bye Force Fields and everything under them) - Counters: Engine Damage before it gets in range and manually targeting all Bombers, Starships and Needler Turrets to destroy it asap.

2. Armor Ship (30.800.000 cap health and bonus damage vs Structural and Turret) - Counters: Minefields, Bombers, Heavy Bomber and Plasma Siege Starships and Needler, Laser and Tractor or Gravitational Turrets protected by Force Fields.

3. Eye Bot (Invisibility, Immunities to Missiles, Sniper shots and FFs, Cloaking Booster, bonus damage vs Structural and Turret) - Counters: Tachyon Beams, Minefields, Laser and Lightning Turrets, Heavy Bomber Starships and Riots with Tractor Turrets.

4. Spire Stealth Battleship (Invisibility, 1,92 million health/ship, bonus damage vs Structural) - Counters: All "Ultra-Heavy destroying things" and Heavy Bomber and Plasma Siege Starships.

5. Space Plane (Invisible, fast, swarmer (kind of), Radar Dampening<Range, high dps, attack multipliers (all of them)) - Counters: Tachyon Beams, Minefields, Sniper Turrets and Missile Frigates.

EDIT: Other note worthy ships starting from the worst
-Leech Starship - Counters: Leech Starships of your own and manually targeting all "Heavy destroying things".
-Sniper/Sentinel Frigate - Counters: Snipers, Sentinels, Raptors, Space Planes, Raid Starships
-Zombard - Counters: Zombards, Raptors, Space Planes, Raid Starships
-Spider Guardian - Counters: Manually targeting Missile Frigates, Heavy Bomber and Plasma Siege Starships
-Munitions Booster - Counters: Manually targeting Missile Frigates

..so many nasty ships.... brb gonna list half of the ships soon
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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2013, 07:03:45 am »
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-Sniper/Sentinel Frigate - Counters: Snipers, Sentinels, Raptors, Space Planes, Raid Starships
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Also Scout Starships with their anti-sniper capabilities.
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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2013, 08:10:54 am »
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-Sniper/Sentinel Frigate - Counters: Snipers, Sentinels, Raptors, Space Planes, Raid Starships
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Also Scout Starships with their anti-sniper capabilities.

Yeah. Scout Starships are overlooked awesomeness against snipers. Counter Sniper Turrets serve the same role for your defenses.

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2013, 08:13:32 am »
The early game horror that is the spire starship mk II/III is not to be underestimated, free one within the first 20 minutes or so and it will rush to your HC and your entire fleet won't kill it fast enough (~50 mil health, 2 mil dps, beam) :'(

vampire claws are also a target of my loathing( FF immune + stealth+ self repair), if you fail to counter them properly they just repair up.

Enclave guardians, ha ha I kite your entire fleet nature is a pain as well.

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2013, 08:56:16 am »
At least the AI doesn't get Riot & Protector Starships?  >D

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2013, 04:22:28 am »
I think I've seen AI Riots in a game with exo waves.

Then again, they were next to useless for the AI, because they kept ramming into a Spire City world with mkI/II turretballs and EMP mines all over.

Engine damage? Hah. The two wormholes in were both in range of the city's beam cannons.

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2013, 07:42:03 am »
At least the AI doesn't get Riot & Protector Starships?  >D
That reminds me.  In my current game the AI has Protector Starships.  Bug?
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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2013, 09:16:30 am »
Really? Never seem that. Did the AI put any modules on it?

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2013, 01:42:09 pm »
At least the AI doesn't get Riot & Protector Starships?  >D
That reminds me.  In my current game the AI has Protector Starships.  Bug?
What version did your game start as?  AI Protector Starships snuck in there for a few versions during beta.  Otherwise, I suspect (hope) it is a bug.

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2013, 01:43:29 pm »
At least the AI doesn't get Riot & Protector Starships?  >D
That reminds me.  In my current game the AI has Protector Starships.  Bug?
Otherwise, I suspect (hope) it is a feature.

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2013, 02:54:56 pm »
Are protector starships allowed in exo-waves similar to how riot starships are?

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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2013, 04:37:48 pm »
Not so much fear as hate--I hate Spire Tractor Platforms.  And the RNG on this computer loves them.  Afraid is usually limited to the 'goodies' the AI gets in Exo waves:  Shieldbearers leading the charge with super fast Plasma Siege Starships joining in is brutal.
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Re: AI ship I am most afraid of
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2013, 11:57:29 pm »
I had an exo with a Raid as its leader one time...I did a WTF double take before I realized what was going on.  A bunch of powerful ships coming straight towards me at ludicrous speed (they went plaid :D) made me crap half a brick.  I believe I stopped it though, barely, if memory is correct.
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