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Offline resonence

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AI Hunter/Killer
« on: September 02, 2011, 03:48:38 pm »
Do these ever appear in the game? I haven't found any reference to them other than the in game library.

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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 03:52:04 pm »
I think... not, at this point.  For a while the AI was swapping them in for large numbers of ships, but then later we made carriers instead.  So these haven't found a home again in the revised game rules, to my recollection.
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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 11:32:18 am »
such a shame, I liked them. Hope you'll be able to find a new purpose for them in the future Chris

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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 11:34:47 am »
Oh, I have no doubt of it.
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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 11:44:19 am »
How terrible would it be to throw them into exo-waves? Hunter killers seem a reasonable threat to fallen spire ships.
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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 11:45:09 am »
I'd be fine with that, if it's of interest to Keith.
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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 12:14:57 pm »
I'm assuming that hunter-killers would be strong enough to be considered an "Exo-wave fleet leader", and also have a cost comparable to that of golems? I mean, they are pretty darn scary ships after all.

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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 04:04:32 pm »
I'm assuming that hunter-killers would be strong enough to be considered an "Exo-wave fleet leader", and also have a cost comparable to that of golems? I mean, they are pretty darn scary ships after all.
They're way, WAY worse than golems.  Just tested it.  They're also in for 5.017 ;)

They'll "cost" more than golems; the game doesn't restrict what can be a lead ship or a follower, that just happens naturally by virtue of the cost tiers and the way it spends part of the budget on the single largest ship it can get, and then divides the rest into much smaller pieces.  If those smaller pieces were still all larger than the largest available ship, it would wind up picking that largest one multiple times even in one battlegroup.  That's why that recently-posted-screenshot of a 106 hour FS game has 10 of said ship on it ;)
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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 05:42:37 pm »
I'm assuming that hunter-killers would be strong enough to be considered an "Exo-wave fleet leader", and also have a cost comparable to that of golems? I mean, they are pretty darn scary ships after all.
They're way, WAY worse than golems.  Just tested it.  They're also in for 5.017 ;)

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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 05:44:39 pm »
I'm assuming that hunter-killers would be strong enough to be considered an "Exo-wave fleet leader", and also have a cost comparable to that of golems? I mean, they are pretty darn scary ships after all.
They're way, WAY worse than golems.  Just tested it.  They're also in for 5.017 ;)

Egad!
We were fixing too many balance problems, had to cause some too ;)
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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 06:26:06 pm »
]They're way, WAY worse than golems.  Just tested it.  They're also in for 5.017 ;)

Let me repeat my last reaction to when you allowed hunter-killers to spawn...

AAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!  :o

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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 06:28:51 pm »
They've been somewhat tamed down, and they're fairly easy to kill if you focus-fire them with, well, everything :D
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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 06:33:23 pm »
Oh, one more thing. Is the mothership still more powerfull than the hunter-killers? It seems to me that the mothership should be either the strongest or second (or possibly even the third) strongest individual unit in the game, with only the super-dreadnought or possibly the Mk. V hunter-killer getting close or possibly out-powering it.
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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 06:35:14 pm »
Could someone please explain what a Hunter-Killer is and does? I want to know how much I should be afraid of 5.017.
I can already tell this is going to be a roller coaster ride of disappointment.

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Re: AI Hunter/Killer
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 06:36:36 pm »
Could someone please explain what a Hunter-Killer is and does? I want to know how much I should be afraid of 5.017.

Imagine something with the firepower that would make the avenger scream in fear, and the durability that even the armored golem envies...