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Offline Flying_Bread

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A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« on: February 18, 2012, 07:52:40 pm »
If you are playing with advanced hybrids enabled, do not, for the love of all that is holy, let it progress to the final stage. I have no idea how many people have seen this, but I had no idea what was coming. If you want to test out what happens, do it on a game that you can afford to lose, not the 17 hour spire arc game you may have running.... :'(

I do have to say though, well done. I was truly surprised at the outcome. It's nice to see some very "nasty" things still exist in this game.

I'm off to start a new game.....with hybrids turned off this time.

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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2012, 07:59:01 pm »
I was wondering when someone would hit it :)

If you post the save (from before the final bit) I can disable advanced hybrids and it won't progress further in 5.027 (there's a bug in 5.026 that would still let it progress under normal hybrids).  Or you could go kill the antagonizer/converter before all that, etc.  It's certainly not my intent to ruin 17 hour FS games with this :)
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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2012, 08:31:34 pm »
Haha thanks for the offer, though I have so many other games open right now that I need to finish. It's nice to see that hybrids have something you really need to fear now.

One thing though, when the final phase hits, I think it would be alot more "entertaining" if the ai sent a message, maybe along the lines of "oops". I love the fact that even after playing this game sense the pre 3.0 days that there are still new things to find that keep me coming back.

I look forward to slaying those troublesome hybrids in the near future  :P

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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 08:32:44 pm »
The hybrids do actually send a chat message; try checking the chat log on the stats screen (it'll be gone if you save and load, though) :)
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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2012, 10:35:58 pm »
So what happens in the final stage? I don't really have the time to spare to set up insinuation where I live long enough to deliberately trigger it.

Is it something silly like 20 enemy to humans gatllings per spawn batch or something?

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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2012, 10:53:03 pm »
I'm not giving it away :)
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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2012, 11:14:25 pm »
So what happens in the final stage? I don't really have the time to spare to set up insinuation where I live long enough to deliberately trigger it.

Is it something silly like 20 enemy to humans gatllings per spawn batch or something?

If you poke around I've actually said it somewhere in the forums. :)  I won't take away Keith's joy though.  It USED to be 20x, though.  Death to the user!
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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 05:35:29 am »
I just found out what they do... it came as a surprise to me and things did not go well beyond that :)
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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 01:13:44 pm »
So what happens in the final stage? I don't really have the time to spare to set up insinuation where I live long enough to deliberately trigger it.

Is it something silly like 20 enemy to humans gatllings per spawn batch or something?

If you poke around I've actually said it somewhere in the forums. :)  I won't take away Keith's joy though.  It USED to be 20x, though.  Death to the user!
Oh, no, that's not the end of it :)
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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 03:49:21 pm »
So what happens in the final stage? I don't really have the time to spare to set up insinuation where I live long enough to deliberately trigger it.

Is it something silly like 20 enemy to humans gatllings per spawn batch or something?

If you poke around I've actually said it somewhere in the forums. :)  I won't take away Keith's joy though.  It USED to be 20x, though.  Death to the user!
Oh, no, that's not the end of it :)

*Quirks up an eyebrow*  Truly?  I'll have to boot that game back up and see what I can see.
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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 04:39:54 pm »
Do the hybrid hives keep doing their thing even after you have lost? I am trying out a "throwaway" game where I don't do anything but watch the game at full speed to see what they do at the final stage.

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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 06:32:34 pm »
Do the hybrid hives keep doing their thing even after you have lost?
Yes, though it may lead to some different code paths as a lot of them only happen if there are actually human worlds to conquer, etc.
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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 06:36:26 pm »
Well, I decided to setup a "stall game" to see this behavior, so I started up a game, got two turtle AIs, cheated like crap, set performance profile to extremely low, and bumped up speed to +10

This is the result. :3

Now to wait.

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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 08:36:48 pm »
Um, OK then. I think I figured out what the Dyson is being converted into.  :o

I will honor Keith's wishes (read, not spoil his fun) and not spoil it for you guys, but I will say it involves what I previously thought to be a hilarious gimmick.

BTW, the chat message does spawn, but thanks to the fact that the "recent chat messages" on the main game screen box does not auto-scroll to the bottom, it's easy to miss.

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Re: A Warning on Advanced Hybrids
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 08:57:32 pm »
On the other hand, getting that achievement is "slightly" easier now....easy being a relative term