I still think they are scary. More so when you don't know they are coming for you until your worlds burn and it is happily warping into your home system. I shudder to think what I would do against them with nothing but basic ship fleets.. As it is I can fight them on near equal terms with super ships of my own like spirecraft/spire fleet/golems etc.. All in all I like the fact they actually make me interact with my bottleneck as opposed to just having my standard defense gib them.