Superterminal Spawn distance?

[Draco18s]

I was under the impression that a superterminal couldn't spawn adjacent to a player homeworld.

Although I am not sure what the rules are.

[keith.lamothe]

Having looked at the code recently I think it only required 1 distance from human homeworlds.  I'm not sure if that means one or two hops in practice, but I think it means 1.

[Hearteater]

I have one adjacent to my homeworld right now.  Created the game in 5.051.

[Draco18s]

I have one adjacent to my homeworld right now.  Created the game in 5.051.

My current game as well.  What I meant was:

Is this intended behavior?

[keith.lamothe]

I don't know the intention, it was written something like 2 and a half years ago, before I worked here

It is something of an advantage to start nearby to the ST, but it also makes it a more dangerous hack because you have less buffer room to defend your homeworld if it gets out of control before you kill it.

[Draco18s]

I don't know the intention, it was written something like 2 and a half years ago, before I worked here

It is something of an advantage to start nearby to the ST, but it also makes it a more dangerous hack because you have less buffer room to defend your homeworld if it gets out of control before you kill it.

Its first wave is like 4 units.  Each additional wave is 4 plus a cumulative 1% more units (so the 10th tick is 44 units).

It does not get out of control quickly, and the ST itself has almost no hit points.

It's a joke, even in the early game and with a fleet one has by the mid-game, it's a walk in the park.  The last one I pestered (not counting last night) we let it run so long we were actually increasing AIP because of the AIP floor, and even then the waves it was throwing at us weren't all that significant (yeah, we brought the AIP floor up to like 200).

Not like the first ST I ever ticked off, where it ran for maybe 3 minutes before overwhelming a late-game two-player fleet, killing the command station, and an adjacent world before getting brought under control.

[keith.lamothe]

The last one I pestered (not counting last night) we let it run so long we were actually increasing AIP because of the AIP floor, and even then the waves it was throwing at us weren't all that significant (yeah, we brought the AIP floor up to like 200).

What version was that?  Specifically, before or after 5.030?

[Draco18s]

The last one I pestered (not counting last night) we let it run so long we were actually increasing AIP because of the AIP floor, and even then the waves it was throwing at us weren't all that significant (yeah, we brought the AIP floor up to like 200).

What version was that?  Specifically, before or after 5.030?

The one where we increased the AIP floor above the current AIP was before 5.030.

We could have done the same last night (5.051) but stopped because we were interested in performing an ARS hack and didn't want to raise the hacking threat too much.

[keith.lamothe]

We could have done the same last night (5.051) but stopped because we were interested in performing an ARS hack and didn't want to raise the hacking threat too much.

I think you might find it gets a bit more wild than that nowadays

Starting from zero-previous-hacking does let you squeeze a goodly amount of AIP reduction out of it, but it reaches a point where it gets so many rolls on the wild magic table that it gets unmanageable.

[Draco18s]

Starting from zero-previous-hacking does let you squeeze a goodly amount of AIP reduction out of it, but it reaches a point where it gets so many rolls on the wild magic table that it gets unmanageable.

In which case, it doesn't happen soon enough.  I think we pulled ~50 AIP out of it and the craziest thing that happened was a non-localized spawn.

I know what it can do.  I just never saw any evidence.  I don't think it got up above 1 wild roll.

[keith.lamothe]

50 AIP is fine for that much hacking cost and the use of the ST.

[Cinth]

114 AIP decrease before I got kicked off the ST in my current game lol.

The response, if your interested, is attached.   

[keith.lamothe]

114 AIP decrease before I got kicked off the ST in my current game lol.

The response, if your interested, is attached.   

You had 16 HWs in that one, right?

[Draco18s]

114 AIP decrease before I got kicked off the ST in my current game lol.

The response, if your interested, is attached.   

You had 16 HWs in that one, right?

900 ships (given that the text file is poorly formatted) is trivial if he does.

[Cinth]

114 AIP decrease before I got kicked off the ST in my current game lol.

The response, if your interested, is attached.   

You had 16 HWs in that one, right?

Yes 16 HWs.. It is the game I currently have in AAR.

114 AIP decrease before I got kicked off the ST in my current game lol.

The response, if your interested, is attached.   

You had 16 HWs in that one, right?

900 ships (given that the text file is poorly formatted) is trivial if he does.

The text file was attached as is. I just threw it up here as I thought it might be interesting or relevant.
Aside from the fact that it is a 16 HW game.. It was a hack started from practically zero response.
I'm sure something useful can be gleaned from the file