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Offline goobie

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what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« on: November 17, 2010, 08:09:41 am »
I've been trying for 2 days but i can't seem to find a cool combination to take out AI home planet's mark V ships and its force fields..any advice??  :o

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 11:44:49 am »
pop starships, specifically leech starships in and out of the wormhole, just long enough to fire a salvo and escape before the mass driver does too much damage. this will cause all the nearby ships to a) be marked for reclaimation and b) be freed, and to attack you. they attack you, you capture them, the AI garrison is reduced. repeat this until nothing is nearby.

capture an adjacent planet and build lots of FF. send them all through the wormhole to the enemy system with your fleet inside. shred all the enemy ships that attack the FF until the garrisoning AI ships are gone, then use mass bombers to take down shields. have your spaceports on the adjacent planet rapidly replacing losses and rallying to the AI homeworld so reinforcements are constant.

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 11:24:17 pm »
pop starships, specifically leech starships in and out of the wormhole, just long enough to fire a salvo and escape before the mass driver does too much damage. this will cause all the nearby ships to a) be marked for reclaimation and b) be freed, and to attack you. they attack you, you capture them, the AI garrison is reduced. repeat this until nothing is nearby.

capture an adjacent planet and build lots of FF. send them all through the wormhole to the enemy system with your fleet inside. shred all the enemy ships that attack the FF until the garrisoning AI ships are gone, then use mass bombers to take down shields. have your spaceports on the adjacent planet rapidly replacing losses and rallying to the AI homeworld so reinforcements are constant.

hope this helps

it's hard...because I only have mark II ships :P and I thought FF actually reduces the firepower of the units within it? Does it make it worse if we stack alot of FF over the units? would the effect of 25% (or 75% i can't remember) stack up?

i tried alot of things, even throwing nuclear bombs at them but they're immune and it's damn hard. We had around 1.5k units hitting each other back and forth and finally reduced to 600+. But not long after our fleets came up to 1k plus again..and i've been doing this over and over again for 3 days it's just getting impossible

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 11:37:01 pm »
if you only have mk2 units, id recommend unlocking more.

how much knowledge do you have?
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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2010, 12:13:32 am »
On tough planets you will often have to go in and kill one guard post, retreat to repair and do it again. Destroying guard posts reduces the spawn locations for reinforcements and the total ship cap for that planet. 

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 07:56:46 am »
the idea behind using mass FF is that while your units will only do 25% damage, they will suffer 0% damage! A large blob will still inflict heavy casualties at 25% DPS, while suffering far less losses.

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2010, 09:10:08 am »
the idea behind using mass FF is that while your units will only do 25% damage, they will suffer 0% damage! A large blob will still inflict heavy casualties at 25% DPS, while suffering far less losses.

FF effect won't stack if they overlap each other?

time to mass FF and see if it works!

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2010, 11:10:28 am »
the idea behind using mass FF is that while your units will only do 25% damage, they will suffer 0% damage! A large blob will still inflict heavy casualties at 25% DPS, while suffering far less losses.

FF effect won't stack if they overlap each other?

time to mass FF and see if it works!

correct 75% reduction is enough  :P
Bring engineers and MRS for repair.
With multiple FF when one gets knocked down you can turn it off and 3 sec later your eng and MRS will repair it, Turn it on and turn off another for repair and repeat. With 3 or more ff you may actually get them to heal w/o powering down. depends on the incoming fire

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2010, 10:57:06 am »

correct 75% reduction is enough  :P
Bring engineers and MRS for repair.
With multiple FF when one gets knocked down you can turn it off and 3 sec later your eng and MRS will repair it, Turn it on and turn off another for repair and repeat. With 3 or more ff you may actually get them to heal w/o powering down. depends on the incoming fire

hey, i can't seem to use FF on the ai home world!!!! arruggghhh..this is insane! What kinda easy mode is this????

the moment my FFs step into it, it won't even have te shield up. Not too sure whats going on..i didn't see any special units stopping it though.

also, i can't see to use leech units to tag mark V ships..is this normal?

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2010, 11:09:47 am »
do you have supply there? (ie, own an adjacent planet)

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2010, 03:47:36 pm »
Planetary Shield Inhibitor or equivalent perhaps?

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2010, 04:49:36 pm »
hey, i can't seem to use FF on the ai home world!!!! arruggghhh..this is insane! What kinda easy mode is this????

the moment my FFs step into it, it won't even have te shield up. Not too sure whats going on..i didn't see any special units stopping it though.

also, i can't see to use leech units to tag mark V ships..is this normal?

FF's need supply to work so you'll have to have captured a planet next door to the AI Homeworld to be able to use them there.

The only Mark V/Core ship you can't tag for reclamation should be Core Bombers which is a known issue.

If you're still trying to kill the AI Homeworld using mark II units I'd suggest backing off for a while & gathering more knowledge so you can unlock mark III (and get mark IV free if you have captured an Advanced Factory).

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2010, 08:53:35 pm »
Planetary Shield Inhibitor or equivalent perhaps?

seems like there is a planet armor inhibitor...and has super large health even sending 1k fleet attacking it for 1 min could only damage 2% of its health..this is insane man!

i can't kill it in time since the ai home world's planet filled with mark Vsss

FF's need supply to work so you'll have to have captured a planet next door to the AI Homeworld to be able to use them there.

The only Mark V/Core ship you can't tag for reclamation should be Core Bombers which is a known issue.

If you're still trying to kill the AI Homeworld using mark II units I'd suggest backing off for a while & gathering more knowledge so you can unlock mark III (and get mark IV free if you have captured an Advanced Factory).

i can't. The thing is I'm playing snake type map, and now i've reached the stage where the next planet is ai's home world. Subsequent planets seems to have some ai too..and i've already used up all the knowledges in the previous planets. since i cant pass through ai's home world to the next planet..my mission now is to get rid of its home command centre and win!! :P but 15 in game hours into it and i still can't figure out.

i could build mark v equivalent ships though through the space dock but that cost alot..and i also have hive golem and microparasites human ships though. now not too sure how to balance everything up.

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Re: what is the best way to destroy force fields and mark V units?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2010, 02:46:15 am »
You're just going to have to amass resources and expend your units in wave attacks. If you play smart you ought to be able to knock out guard posts and attrition the AI faster than it reinforces. When you attack, have the hive golem jump in and release its wasps, but don't lose it; you'll need it for the next attack.

Doing the Core forcefields with mk II bombers will be impossible without completely suppressing most of their defenses.

For most planets you could use EMP missiles from the Missile Silo to suppress their defenses if its a worst-case cant-break-it problem, but unfortunately AI homeworlds are resistant to EMPs.
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