Author Topic: Gravity how I hate you..  (Read 1905 times)

Offline Trandrin

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Gravity how I hate you..
« on: October 13, 2011, 08:42:05 am »
Got a question regarding what one does against gravity impairing problems. My current game has ai's using extensive amounts of Spire gravity drains. They have really been mucking up most of my tactics in regards to killing eyes/sniping fortresses and the like. It has become a real pain trying to push past them. Any specific tactic that would help me move "quicker" in stomping these out would be welcome.

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Re: Gravity how I hate you..
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 09:58:57 am »
Gravity for me only hurts when I start using bugs (nenzul ships) then they hurt.

If I remember right missile frigates work well against them. It's about the only reason I bring them along for offense.
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Re: Gravity how I hate you..
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 10:14:59 am »
With the caveat that I haven't yet had to deal with them personally:

Missile Frigates are the best common counter for them just in terms of damage.  They out-range the gravity effect and are only slightly slower than the Gravity Drains themselves (24 speed vs 22 speed).  It takes 7.3 Mark I Missile Frigates to kill a Mark I Gravity Drain in a single volley.  You get one volley every 10 seconds.  Multiply the required Missile Frigates by the Mark of the Gravity Drain.  Count higher mark Missile Frigates as multiple Mark Is.

Example, if you have 6 Mark IV Gravity Drains to kill, that requires 30 (rounded up from 29.2) marks worth of Frigates each, so 180 total marks to kill all six instantly.  Just a cap of Mark II Frigates would be enough.  A cap of Mark Is would kill them in 10 seconds (two volleys).

As for specific tactics, consider Transports to get your Frigates into position.  In particular, select your Frigates and click on the Gravity Drains which will set the Frigates' preferred target.  Load up the Frigates and fly them into position.  If you unload them in range they should target the Gravity Drains first over other targets which prevents them from wasting their first shot on something else.  Don't unload them too early because while they prefer Gravity Drains, if other targets are available they may first at elsewhere making you wait 10 seconds for them to reload.

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Re: Gravity how I hate you..
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 08:20:48 pm »
After refreshing my memory...

Yes, missile frigates are the way to go. They can outrange the gravity effects and they get a bonus in damage. Other long range craft can work too, but none better then the frigates.

Gravity effects are the first threat I find that cannot easily be beaten without frigates. But if you must then keep your fleet bunched together and fly straight toward them. Don't beat around the bush, just plow straight to them.
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Re: Gravity how I hate you..
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 09:41:27 pm »
Well, IMO Gravity Drains are still significantly less frustrating than Gravity Drills...