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Offline Don Carsto

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Thats really hard in the beginning..
« on: June 06, 2010, 05:21:57 am »
Hello,

got the last beta-update and
started a new game with 80 planets, all fractions, all golems etc.
Difficult 7. I become an golemite and an peacemaker KI. (Never known them before but okay, I love surprises)

Now after two hours playing have only my home system and 3 hops away I visited a system
with:

Special Forces Post
Ion Cannon I
Factory IV --> (oh, I will this)

Botnet Golem --> (he is very angry)

Data Center --> (wonderful -20 KI-Progress chance in the beginning)

and last.....

Dyson Sphere --> (Yes!! we free the planet for you)


My plan very clever:
First destroy the command center.
Then look what the dyson sphere do.

Okay... also started to load an transport-ship whith 100 bombers-II and destroy the command station.
Wonderful, it works, but lost all my bombers and transporter against the golem and the pink gatlings.

But the dyson sphere now produces gatlings in my colour. Now he is my friend.
Good...
Next mission very very clever:
Go in, destroy the Special forces post,
quick build a command center to get the Ion cannon and the factory and then very fast, destroy my own command center,
cause I will give the system back to the dyson sphere.

All was wonderful. Had a factory and Ion cannon,
the dyson sphere produces 5 gatlings in one rush to attack me.
Fast gave the system back to Dyson, but the gatling quick go against my home system,
destroid my defence, all ships and after that fires through the shield and killed my home base in one rush..

What a funny gameplay.. Wonderful.
I love this game...

I saved the game before taken the dyson system. Now must look for a new strategy to take the factory.
But this 5 dyson gatlings I cant kill in this early game phase.
So I think I must wait. But I will this factory (yep yep)....

I have a chance to kill them with a Zenith-II-Reserve in my neighbour system, but dont have enought energy this time.

Think I must play with patience...

Greetings,
Don Carsto..




 





 

Offline Don Carsto

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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 06:34:22 am »

Hahh..... I got it...

I saw, thet gatlings have a fire fokus of 11000. But a heavy beam has 14000.
So I builded up 10!! heavy-beams far enought from the wormhole to kill them, but
they cant kill me.
Than 88 tractor-beams-I and 10 rebuilder-engineers for fast rebuilding of the tractor beams, cause
my heavy beams need time to kill the gatlings..
I the spare time killed another data center, so the KI-progress now is by 6 (lol) and
a distribition, so I got many ressources..
And killed the special-forces-post and all post in the dyson system.

Then the final move.
Build my command center, got the factory and ion-cannon.
Wonderful.
The destroy the command-center by myself.
5 foe-gatlings moves on.
Crossed two systems and get trapped in my tractor-beams.
Killing my tractor-beams, my heavy-bemas kill them.
The rebuilder-engineers made good work and all the gatlings been killed now.

And its peace in the dyson-system. The cannon never fire on the friendly gatlings and the KI-forces
who now will destroy the ion cannon will be killed by the friendly gatlings and the ion-cannon.
Only the golem will make trouble in this system, but later I give him some mark-I food, so he will
destroy himself by producing zombies.

I like systems, who are friendly and stable.

cu,

Don Carsto..



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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 07:57:18 am »
post administratively removed for repeated rudeness with no information that the OP didn't already have.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2010, 10:23:05 am by x4000 »
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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 10:30:13 am »
Hi Don,

Welcome to the forums!  Yes, the dyson gatlings can really be quite a challenge if they turn on you.  That was a more recent change due to people never feeling particularly threatened by the dyson sphere in the past, they just complained it felt like a pure bonus instead.  Well, now those dyson gatlings are something not to be trifled with for sure, heh. ;)

Glad to hear you're enjoying the game so well, and it sounds like you have a lot of good strategies going on there, even if the dyson golem did throw a monkey wrench into that!
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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2010, 11:20:27 am »
My plan very clever:
First destroy the command center.
Then look what the dyson sphere do.

Always remember to blow up the thing next to it before you know what it does  ::)

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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2010, 01:25:28 pm »
i recall 100 bomber is over kill, 20 to 40 is enough and it destroys it instantly, great if you want to save the 60 * 500 metal, 30000 resources.

Offline Don Carsto

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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 02:21:49 am »
i recall 100 bomber is over kill, 20 to 40 is enough and it destroys it instantly, great if you want to save the 60 * 500 metal, 30000 resources.


in this system it doesnt work cause there was an ion cannon, a angry bot-golem
and dyson-gatlings..
So I must hurry up to kill this fat command center.


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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 02:49:31 am »
Hi Don,

Welcome to the forums!  Yes, the dyson gatlings can really be quite a challenge if they turn on you.  That was a more recent change due to people never feeling particularly threatened by the dyson sphere in the past, they just complained it felt like a pure bonus instead.  Well, now those dyson gatlings are something not to be trifled with for sure, heh. ;)

Glad to hear you're enjoying the game so well, and it sounds like you have a lot of good strategies going on there, even if the dyson golem did throw a monkey wrench into that!

Hi x4000,

yes this game is the most amazing game I ever played.
I bought it about 5 weeks ago and since that played it every day
beetween 5 and 16 hours.
At weekends more hours as on working days.
But everytime I say to me, only play 2 hours max, but
then I look at the clock and its past 00.30 am in the night.

First I played level 7 some times, but everytime I was killed by the AI
as taking a planet who send out so many troops, that I cant handle.

Then I played a 50 planet map with level 5 KIs and won the game, but it was a hard way.

The game I started yesterday with level 7 and 80 planets I will play very careful.
Every time before I played very quick take over 20 planets in one rush and cant crunsh the KI cause at one point
will be very angry and sends waves after waves. And build up the planets so
I get stucked.
Played now more than 15 hours and have only 7 systems with low defence (but not the home world)
cause the dyson sphere helps some systems.
The AI progress is still by 89. I reduced it by 200 cause killed the 4 co-prozessors and some data-centers.
The minig golem destroyed one KI-system, and so I have to live with that 20 points more.
I took a mark-IV-factory very early and so  the whole map is explored my a mark-IV explorer.
So I finded out all the big stuff in the galaxy and the homeworlds, so its easier to plan
the strategies.

One time, an rebel-colony want my help, so I looked that this planet only is 4 hops away
from the KI-Home. It was a hard way to take this planet cause a planetary shield booster where there.
But I got it and now this will be my new operation base against the KI homeworld.
The other is 10 hops from another planet, but I think first kill the first.

Then I found a black widow golem.
I repaired it and he is now on the planet with the shield-booster.
He is now much harder to crunsh as before... :-)

But now about the game itself.
Bought 3 days ago the zenith expansion and its very very cool.
Pumping up the KI-command-centers, very good. The 99.999 health was to low.
The golems, wonderful.
The co-prozessors and the new stuff, I love it.
Every day one or more beta-updates. Thats awesome.

Thank you very much for this never boring game.

At last a questions:

When I use cleaning drones to cleanup a system from all the scrap, will I get some of the ressources?
I am not sure if it so.


cu,
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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 12:32:50 pm »
Thanks for your support!  It's always a pleasure to hear how into the game some people get, I certainly really enjoy it myself, heh. ;)

For the cleanup drones, you don't get any resources off of that, but you are preventing the AI from rebuilding those units.
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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2010, 07:46:30 pm »
did you actually say that you played 16 hours a day?

Offline Don Carsto

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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2010, 02:11:48 am »
did you actually say that you played 16 hours a day?


Yes, thats true. Not everyday but mostly on weekends I play up to 16 hours.
Yesterday only want to play a few hours but at last after my work I played 8 hours
and then go to bed.

Cu,
Don Carsto




 

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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2010, 08:37:20 am »
That's incredible dedication, eh? Just don't burn yourself out! ;)
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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2010, 11:57:47 am »
That's incredible dedication, eh? Just don't burn yourself out! ;)

Hey, the universe need help, what can be more important as fight against this evil KI...

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2010, 11:59:54 am »
:)
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Re: Thats really hard in the beginning..
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2010, 09:14:24 am »
Don Carsto amuses me greatly. Keep posting!