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Offline Tharrick

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ARS hacking and subspace signals
« on: March 24, 2012, 07:27:01 pm »
So I was playing a multiplayer game earlier, and we were doing an ARS hack in the same planet as one of our fallen Spire subspace signals. We finished up the hack, took the planet... but the subspace signal was long gone. Loading an earlier save from right after the hack also shows the signal to be gone.

What I think may have happened is the AI's tachyon-blanket response may have shown up the signal, and it may have been attacked and destroyed, but I'm not entirely sure, so I wanted to see if anyone else had run into this before I started worrying about bugs?

Cheers!

- Tharrick
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Re: ARS hacking and subspace signals
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 07:30:21 pm »
Quote from: Tharrick on March 24, 2012, 07:27:01 pm
So I was playing a multiplayer game earlier, and we were doing an ARS hack in the same planet as one of our fallen Spire subspace signals. We finished up the hack, took the planet... but the subspace signal was long gone. Loading an earlier save from right after the hack also shows the signal to be gone.

What I think may have happened is the AI's tachyon-blanket response may have shown up the signal, and it may have been attacked and destroyed, but I'm not entirely sure, so I wanted to see if anyone else had run into this before I started worrying about bugs?

Cheers!

- Tharrick

You're correct.  Blowing the tachyon on the subspace signal apparently gets it destroyed, or at least visible if there's no troops on the planet.  I tried it once for giggles so I knew where to position my escort fleet with a tachyon missile.

The results were not a happy thing.
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Offline keith.lamothe

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Re: ARS hacking and subspace signals
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 07:54:48 pm »
Hmm, I should probably make those invincible :)
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Offline Tharrick

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Re: ARS hacking and subspace signals
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2012, 08:11:20 pm »
Cheers for the quick response :)
Is there any way now of continuing my Spire game, or am I doomed to have to switch back to Vanilla playstile 7.5 hours in?
« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 08:52:51 pm by Tharrick »
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Re: ARS hacking and subspace signals
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 09:09:49 pm »
If you don't have a save from before the signal blew up, I'm afraid you're up exo creek without a spire  :-[
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Offline Tharrick

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Re: ARS hacking and subspace signals
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 09:13:03 pm »
Ah well. We have one city, might still be able to push through by main force now... Wish us luck :P

Edit: Nope, game is now untenable. Ah well. Nuke mkIII time :)
« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 10:06:58 pm by Tharrick »
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Re: ARS hacking and subspace signals
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 01:08:03 pm »
For 5.032:

* Made the "signal markers" in Fallen Spire invincible in the same sense as the Dyson Sphere (well, without a certain caveat which applies to the Dyson).
** Thanks to Tharrick for reporting that it was actually possible for one of these to get destroyed if the AI did a tachyon burst during hacking to drop the marker's perma-cloak.  "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" apparently wasn't sinking in.

:)

Quote from: Tharrick on March 24, 2012, 09:13:03 pm
Edit: Nope, game is now untenable. Ah well. Nuke mkIII time :)
Commence Operation 'Take Ball, Go Home'! ;)
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Re: ARS hacking and subspace signals
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 02:23:47 pm »
Can the sunspace signals also be made neutral to all, so they don't trigger my blade spawnees and hostile unit count warnings?
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Re: ARS hacking and subspace signals
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 10:43:11 am »
Quote from: techsy730 on March 25, 2012, 02:23:47 pm
Can the sunspace signals also be made neutral to all, so they don't trigger my blade spawnees and hostile unit count warnings?

Having the full complement of blades out to hit the initial wave of enemies front loads your Blade Spawners DPS - and this powerful advantage in the alpha strike phase is worth keeping whenever possible. For instance, when using blade spawners I don't suggest killing Core Shield Generators (until it's homeworld smashing time) specifically so that the Blade Spawners spawn blades on that planet. 

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Re: ARS hacking and subspace signals
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 03:07:34 pm »
Quote from: keith.lamothe on March 25, 2012, 01:08:03 pm
For 5.032:

* Made the "signal markers" in Fallen Spire invincible in the same sense as the Dyson Sphere (well, without a certain caveat which applies to the Dyson).
** Thanks to Tharrick for reporting that it was actually possible for one of these to get destroyed if the AI did a tachyon burst during hacking to drop the marker's perma-cloak.  "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" apparently wasn't sinking in.

:)



Awesome :D I'm glad to have finally contributed something of worth :)


Quote from: keith.lamothe on March 25, 2012, 01:08:03 pm
Quote from: Tharrick on March 24, 2012, 09:13:03 pm
Edit: Nope, game is now untenable. Ah well. Nuke mkIII time :)
Commence Operation 'Take Ball, Go Home'! ;)

Of course! If I can't liberate it, nobody can have it! And mkIII nuke is a fantastic way of ending a game that is definitely on its way to ending badly (and by badly, I mean 'none of the 3 players had any ships left, and there were about 1000 ships on an ultra-low cap game making a beeline for the homeworlds, accompanied by a more or less equal number in carriers)
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