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Offline Kahuna

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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2012, 05:00:22 am »
I just scouted the whole map and found more CS-A1s. I'll capture 2 extra planets. I don't think that's going to be a huge problem though. Not with the golems, defenses and the extra knowledge from the planets.


« Last Edit: July 18, 2012, 05:02:42 am by Kahuna »
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2012, 09:37:13 am »
Yay!


and omg -______________- GO AWAY
It has been there (on my home planet and next to my space dock) for like 10 minutes and probably wont leave until ALL of my zombies are dead. I wish I could blow it up with my penetrators :(
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2012, 10:11:06 am »
The cookie monster is hungry, and you have the cookie factory! ;)
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2012, 04:29:23 pm »
Quote from: keith.lamothe on July 18, 2012, 10:11:06 am
The cookie monster is hungry, and you have the cookie factory! ;)
lol.
I'll end the game tomorrow btw  :P
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2012, 11:38:16 am »
Difficulty 10/10 is something we balance in such a way that nobody but the top starcraft players (or whoever of that caliber) could ever win, and it would be a struggle for them.
Given that those folks largely don't play AI War to my knowledge, if anyone ever wins 10/10 then we've messed up. ;)
So I just won the game. It was surprisingly easy and I think 10 difficulty could use a buff..
(..even though I'm not a Starcraft player  :P Didn't rly like Starcraft. It's a button smacking game. The one who smacks buttons faster wins. It's all about being faster than your enemy. Like aiming in Counter Strike. Sure there's strategy too but the strategies are easy to learn and understand. Maybe I'll get the thumb out of my ass some day and learn all the hotkeys and stuff.)

"Screenshots or didn't happen!"
Here you go:




-10 speed. SlowMo for more epicness :P
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 11:49:02 am by Kahuna »
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2012, 11:45:31 am »
I still had golems and other nuke proof ships left. I lost my Botnet Golem on the second AI's home planets (screenshots) because I got lazy. The Space Docks were building ships all the time. I also had caps of MarkI and II Lightning Warheads. It would have taken ~1minute from the golems to get back to my planets to defend. I would have destroyed the attackers and then the Super Hybrids which were antagonizing the Dyson Sphere. I could have destroyed the Super Hybrids much earlier but I knew I would win the game before that so I didn't have to. Basic and Laser Turrets + Lightning Warheads would have destroyed the ~50 Dyson Gatlings. Wave sizes were ~5-8k. I would have stopped them with the golems while rebuilding the turrets and stuff.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 11:47:29 am by Kahuna »
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2012, 11:51:22 am »
Hmm, it seems that MOAR has certainly made things tougher, it look like it may not be enough, and I don't think more "MOAR" is the way to go (though a little bit MOAR may be good, especially for the other ways the AI can attack, like CPAs and exo-wave)

Maybe it is time to dig through mantis and start implementing some of those fancy new "smart" behaviors for the AI that have been proposed over the last year or so?

EDIT: Oh, and congrats on the win! Taking on 10/10 without excessive cheese is by no means an easy feat (maybe not as hard as it should of been, but still not a walk in the park)
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2012, 12:22:18 pm »
Quote from: TechSY730 on July 19, 2012, 11:51:22 am
EDIT: Oh, and congrats on the win! Taking on 10/10 without excessive cheese is by no means an easy feat (maybe not as hard as it should of been, but still not a walk in the park)

Now I'll try to win vs Raid Engine(10 Diff) and Scorched Earth(10 Diff) on 10 planet map.
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2012, 02:39:11 pm »
Oh and what's "MOAR" ??? mother of all..  ::)
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 02:40:44 pm by Kahuna »
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2012, 02:42:30 pm »
Quote from: Kahuna on July 19, 2012, 02:39:11 pm
Oh and what's "MOAR"  ??? mother of all..  ::)

A "humurous" misspelling of more. We often use it to express the idea of buffing by just throwing more numbers or stats on something, rather than something complicated and fancy.
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2012, 02:48:18 pm »
aaaa kk!  :D
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2012, 03:37:47 pm »
Congragulations. 10/10 is always nasty, so good job.
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2012, 03:53:00 pm »
MOAR, example sentence: "MOAR DAKKA!".  Which is in fact a full grammatically correct sentence in Orkish.  Referring to the self-evident axiom that one always needs more automatic gunfire.
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2012, 03:14:25 am »
Btw. I forgot to tell I actually did have teleporters ENABLED for this game. But apparently the AI didn't need teleporting ships to annoy me. The op Spire Stealth Battleships and nasty Space Planes worked too.
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Re: The DOOMM!10/10 The Tank/Crafty Spire
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2012, 07:11:53 am »
Here's the research order

Technology| Cost| Total cost
MarkII Metal Harvester| 2000| 2000
MarkII Crystal Harvester| 2000| 4000
MarkIII Metal Harvester| 2500| 6500
MarkIII Crystal Harvester| 2500| 9000
MarkII Scout Drone| 500| 9500
MarkII Bomber| 2500| 12000
MarkII Missile Frigate| 2500| 14500
MarkI Gravitional Turret| 750| 15250
MarkII Sniper| 2500| 17750
MarkI Hardened Force Field Generator| 1000| 18750
MarkII Missile Turret| 3000| 21750
Spider Turret| 3000| 24750
MarkI Heavy Beam Cannon| 500| 25250
MarkII Standard Fighter| 2500| 27750
Tachyon Beam Emitter| 250| 28000
MarkII Tractor Beam Turret| 2000| 30000
MarkII Military OCC| 4000| 34000
MarkII Gravitional Turret| 3000| 37000
MarkII Heavy Beam Cannon| 2500| 39500
MarkII Hardened Force Field Generator| 2000| 41500
MarkII Force Field Generator| 2000| 43500
EMP Minefield| 1000| 44500
Stealth Tachyon Beam Emitter| 1500| 46000
MarkIII Hardened Force Field Generator| 4000| 50000
MarkII Engineer Drone| 1000| 51000

10k starting knowledge
14 planets researched
52k total knowledge
1k knowledge left
« Last Edit: July 21, 2012, 11:16:17 am by Kahuna »
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