Author Topic: When do you unlock Enchantments?  (Read 4243 times)

Offline keith.lamothe

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Re: When do you unlock Enchantments?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2012, 10:20:41 am »
There's also the minor shadow cloaking thing, and maybe a couple of others.
The cloak thing actually has a magnitude, of how much impact it has on enemy detection range.  Or at least it used to :)

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But more to the point, there's also the question of the random additions.  The added stats for "light emission on something that at core has 30% fire attack bonus" is something that is hard to quantify.  Even something like "+10% attack power" versus "+20% mana regen speed" in addition to a base bonus makes a specific enchant hard to weight: which is considered better, for color coding purposes?  Etc.
We could just go by the point total of the item; the +10% on the secondary element on the +40% elemental ones is actually way more expensive than the original +40%, it's just to represent that it's rarer and more costly to get both effects on the same item.
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Re: When do you unlock Enchantments?
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2012, 10:22:58 am »
There's also the minor shadow cloaking thing, and maybe a couple of others.

I actually have this enchant, but I'm not quite sure what it does. Does it reduce the range where enemies detect you or something like that?

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Nevermind, keith swooped in. XD

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Re: When do you unlock Enchantments?
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2012, 12:37:40 pm »
As far as other feedback about the opacity of the system... well, generally randomized loot systems are fairly opaque.  I had very little idea how Diablo 2 or Torchlight were giving me loot, or when the next time would be that I would get a green/purple/yellow/etc.  All I knew is that I was really interested in seeing what it would give me next.

Those never told you "6 point progress to next drop" though. Throw a number at someone and he'll ask what that means.

As for a progress bar, I guess it could just decide on the enchant you'll get right away and then show your progress towards getting enough points for it.

Zelda 2 had multi-threshold point accumulation, it simply asked you whether you want to level up the thing you can afford or save up for something pricier.

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Re: When do you unlock Enchantments?
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2012, 12:42:28 pm »
Zelda 2 had multi-threshold point accumulation, it simply asked you whether you want to level up the thing you can afford or save up for something pricier.

That's true -- I always adored that system, actually, because it gave me so much choice.  We could actually do something similar here, but Keith and I have talked about another approach on skype just a few minutes ago, and I think that will suffice for now.  But thanks for reminding me about that system; that was one of the strongest components of Zelda 2, and I don't know how I forgot about it.  Talk about hooks!
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Offline Martyn van Buren

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Re: When do you unlock Enchantments?
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2012, 03:51:50 am »
Not knowing what the new system is, if you're hiding the mechanics maybe you should remove the message that says "11 [or however many] points earned toward new enchantments"?  Seeing that number and not knowing how many points I need is odd.