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Offline ShaggyMoose

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VWW2 - Any reason to split survivors up?
« on: January 04, 2013, 10:12:16 pm »
Has anyone found any compelling reason to split up survivors? I find when I do this I just end up wasting all my dispatch turns getting individuals out of Demonica's path. In theory keeping them together means that you could lose the game with one mistake. However, it seems that when I do keep them stacked, its much easier to avoid Demonica and still manage constructive tasks. With a decent number of warp gates discovered, you are usually not too far from anywhere. In the case that you do find your survivors trapped or isolated, you only need to waste one turn with "rally" and then you are fine. Thoughts?

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Re: VWW2 - Any reason to split survivors up?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 11:31:34 pm »
It's possible that some of it may depend on playstyle, but I've found that I often do have reason to split them up.   It depends on just what is going on at the time.


It seems to become more and more necessary as you expand the available map size.   Early on, there's not much reason to.   But after a bunch of turns, when you've got a bigger map to deal with and more buildings and more things that need doing, splitting them up can save time.   For example if I've got a barrier of those evil buildings to pass through on one end of the map, and an important building to fix on the other, and my guys are in the middle, splitting them up can mean taking less total turns to get both things done.   If I split them up, it might mean 1 turn having the combat guys go towards the wall and stomping it, and the next turn the others zoom over to fix the broken building;  but if I'd had them all clumped up, I'd have to have at least one turn just using the rally command to move them towards the other objective after the first was done, so that 2 turns might become 3.   Not to mention there are times when you might wanna set someone working on a tile, like on farmland or whatever, to improve it's production, and then have the others run about doing whatever else needs to be done.

You do have to watch out for Demonaica, but I find it's not THAT hard keeping out of his path;  the real challenge is dealing with the destruction he causes.   Dont forget that one command can affect potentially all of your current survivors at once depending on the situation;  the rally command can allow you to move 2 or 3 seperate groups at once and clump them back together into one, AND can move each of them a significant distance, so it's often easy to get them back together fast if need be, and move multiple groups out of the overlord's way all in one turn.


The strategic part of the game definitely does seem pretty simple in the early turns, but it definitely ramps up quite a bit as you go along.   Gets interesting fast, I think.

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Re: VWW2 - Any reason to split survivors up?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 11:40:06 pm »
Does leaving a survivor on a farm or factory square automatically increase production? If so, this might be a reason to leave them scattered around.

Otherwise, I have found that the turns I save by having scattered survivors to do tasks in different places, I usually lose by having to rally one or more of them out of Demonica's way all the time. When he can move 5 or more tiles later on, it gets quite hard to predict where he will end up...

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Re: VWW2 - Any reason to split survivors up?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 03:27:08 am »
Does leaving a survivor on a farm or factory square automatically increase production? If so, this might be a reason to leave them scattered around.

Otherwise, I have found that the turns I save by having scattered survivors to do tasks in different places, I usually lose by having to rally one or more of them out of Demonica's way all the time. When he can move 5 or more tiles later on, it gets quite hard to predict where he will end up...


You have to specifically give them the order to "work" on the square in question, and then as long as you just leave them there and do not move them, they continue to do that.


Otherwise, I think some of it just takes some getting used to.   I find I dont have overmuch trouble getting an idea of where Demonaica is going to go next, or too much trouble keeping my guys away from him.... even later on when he moves further, it's not that hard to get stuff done.   BUT, the strategies for doing so can seem a little obtuse at times, and I can see why some players might not quite see it as I do.   I dont think there's anything whatsoever wrong with the way the strategic mode works, but having the game point out examples of WHY you might want to split into seperate groups is a good idea.   Other than that, I think it just takes some experimentation.

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Re: VWW2 - Any reason to split survivors up?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 10:13:04 am »
I've always tried to keep them separated so that I can have a survivor on-demand available for missions no matter where I feel needs work.

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Re: VWW2 - Any reason to split survivors up?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 02:40:58 pm »
Another reason to keep them split up is that if you want to expand your map in more than one direction, it helps to have survivors nearby for impasse regions and such.

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Re: VWW2 - Any reason to split survivors up?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2013, 08:56:32 am »
Another reason to keep them split up is that if you want to expand your map in more than one direction, it helps to have survivors nearby for impasse regions and such.

i stuck with a 4 survivors-only group, kept them huddled together most of the time and only seperated them if I wanted more scrap and was doing something near the scrap like breaking an impasse or building something.

We were kinda like a fellowship who broke apart alot. And I was the Gandalf-like person who buggered off all the time to do my own magic-based things.
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