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General Category => A Valley Without Wind 1 & 2 => Topic started by: madcow on March 10, 2013, 08:27:31 pm

Title: So I finally beat the game
Post by: madcow on March 10, 2013, 08:27:31 pm
After restarting I don't know how many times and tons of time in the beta/etc, I finally actually defeated Demonica.

How to hunt down and kill his henchmen :)

I got sort of impatient at the end though, and slightly cheated save-scumming outside the final stage of the boss. My survivors were on their last legs and I didn't really want to go through building them back up again knowing how close I was to the end.

It was a blast, and I'm ready for the sequel/expansion now ;)

Mage tier 5 spells felt like such a reward and it was so fun to just mow down enemies with shrapnel flying everywhere.

Also, nerf wall crabs. Those guys are faaar too annoying than they should be in the vertical sections, just need a decrease on the lifetime of those shots. Hungry ghosts made the top of my hated enemy list as well, those guys do uber damage. But they felt fair-ish.

Also I'm pretty sure I never saw the feral chicken enemy. What biome is it for any that have found them? I never saw the triceratops mage either I don't think, I assume they're in lava flats, but I think I only had to purify one of them, and never saw the thing.
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: Winge on March 10, 2013, 09:15:53 pm
Wall Crabs are really annoying (edit:  but I prefer them to Clockwork Pigeons).  Thankfully, they do very little damage.  Hungry Ghosts more or less keep me out of The Deep, for now.  Feral Chickens are in Forests.  I don't think I've seen very many Lava Flats enemies either--you just don't have to go through the Lava flats to beat the game, as there is only one Level-up Windmill behind them.  Merc coins and Amp Towers can keep you from encountering an entire biome of enemies, if used right.  I haven't seen most of the enemies in The Deep, and I've only seen a few enemies from the Lava Flats.
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: madcow on March 10, 2013, 09:19:29 pm
Wall Crabs are really annoying (edit:  but I prefer them to Clockwork Pigeons).  Thankfully, they do very little damage.  Hungry Ghosts more or less keep me out of The Deep, for now.  Feral Chickens are in Forests.  I don't think I've seen very many Lava Flats enemies either--you just don't have to go through the Lava flats to beat the game, as there is only one Level-up Windmill behind them.  Merc coins and Amp Towers can keep you from encountering an entire biome of enemies, if used right.  I haven't seen most of the enemies in The Deep, and I've only seen a few enemies from the Lava Flats.

Yeah, I ended up using coins to skip the one deep zone I had. I already went through and died several times. Decided screw it.

The lava flats wasn't that bad for me though. I just never had to go through it. I ended up seeing more of the enemies outside of it than in.
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: madcow on March 11, 2013, 10:08:42 am
So I killed off the resistance while trying to hunt down the last of the henchman :D  one tyrant traded for another. On the plus side. Only demonica's lover is left, and I beat her first stage...
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: keith.lamothe on March 11, 2013, 10:28:37 am
one tyrant traded for another
The game does slant towards that outcome ;)
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: madcow on March 11, 2013, 10:37:22 am
one tyrant traded for another
The game does slant towards that outcome ;)

It would be an awesome epilogue if I could go visit all the neutral survivors and slaughter them mercilessly!
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: keith.lamothe on March 11, 2013, 11:07:29 am
one tyrant traded for another
The game does slant towards that outcome ;)

It would be an awesome epilogue if I could go visit all the neutral survivors and slaughter them mercilessly!
I'm not coding that ;)
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: LaughingThesaurus on March 11, 2013, 12:36:25 pm
Wouldn't that end up being Chris's job anyway?
I don't really know how the work was split on this though.
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: Winge on March 11, 2013, 06:08:50 pm
one tyrant traded for another
The game does slant towards that outcome ;)

It would be an awesome epilogue if I could go visit all the neutral survivors and slaughter them mercilessly!

 :o

I think you're getting a little bit too into the story...just a little bit...
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: madcow on March 11, 2013, 06:25:16 pm
one tyrant traded for another
The game does slant towards that outcome ;)

It would be an awesome epilogue if I could go visit all the neutral survivors and slaughter them mercilessly!

 :o

I think you're getting a little bit too into the story...just a little bit...

What can I say. Anti-heroes and tragic heroes are just far more interesting protagonists than heroic heroes.
Title: Re: So I finally beat the game
Post by: Misery on March 30, 2013, 09:55:02 am
Wall Crabs are really annoying (edit:  but I prefer them to Clockwork Pigeons).  Thankfully, they do very little damage.  Hungry Ghosts more or less keep me out of The Deep, for now.  Feral Chickens are in Forests.  I don't think I've seen very many Lava Flats enemies either--you just don't have to go through the Lava flats to beat the game, as there is only one Level-up Windmill behind them.  Merc coins and Amp Towers can keep you from encountering an entire biome of enemies, if used right.  I haven't seen most of the enemies in The Deep, and I've only seen a few enemies from the Lava Flats.

I do think that the lava flats as well as the Deep could be made to have a bit more of a presence in the game.     There's just not enough of either on the world map (but there IS a TON of ice/snow areas....).  It really is possible to completely ignore either, if you do it right.  Particularly with the lava flats;  eventually you do have to enter them (unlike the Deep), but as it's sort of a late-game area, chances are you have a pile of coins by then....

The enemies in the Deep though arent quite as bad as I'd originally thought;  the unkillable ghost things, along with the extremely high danger level of that type of tile, tend to give the impression that it's ridiculously hard, but.... yeah, not as bad as I'd thought.  Though it's definitely geared towards being more of a late game area, waiting until the final tier of spells isnt absolutely necessary to go in there, but it IS a very good idea.   I actually thought the Lava Flats were a bit harder than the Deep, particularly considering the lava, and that certain enemies violently explode when beaten.

I think they're both neat areas, so it's a shame that they just arent seen much.


As for the chickens.... there do seem to be a few enemies in the game that could be classified as "very rare", and that's one of them.   I've seen them, but only a few (and they're rather dangerous, actually.... horribly fast little jerks).   And heck, some things seem even more rare.... there were 2 types of robotic enemies that I'd never even once seen until one very specific room when I was playing it yesterday (both are really nasty floating types that drop stuff downwards).    Saw them in that one single room, aint seen them since, hadnt seen them before.   Or those spinning green blob things, I've run into maybe TWO of those in my current game, and that's it.