Questions about depths/dungeons down and achievements

[shadow9d9]

What are the points of the achievements like kill X of Y?

When a crafting material says LOCKED, does this mean that you can't access it even if you get to the area that is says has the items?

When something days to go 2 dungeons down or to reach depth 2, what do they mean?  I've been to the 2nd level from the surface in the dungeon and nothing in particular happens.

Thanks.

[Terraziel]

Both "Kill X of Y", and "Reach Depth X" are unlocks, which is a form of content gating, if you click on them it will tell you what it is unlocking but basically a fairly large and varied amount of things only start spawning once you have unlocked them.

So if we take a couple of examples,

"Kill 40 of Water Esper" unlocks Clockwork Probes, which are a harder form of enemy and which will initially spawn in...I think the grasslands.

"Reach Depth 2 in Desert" unlocks Copper, prior to doing the unlock no caves you explore will contain copper, afterwards it will be obvious and everywhere.

[Penumbra]

When something days to go 2 dungeons down or to reach depth 2, what do they mean?  I've been to the 2nd level from the surface in the dungeon and nothing in particular happens.

Inside underground caves, some of the rooms are marked in green on the minimap. Those rooms lead to the next "depth." Just going to the next room in the same depth cave doesn't count.  Keep exploring the cave till you find the door to "deeper caves" in the green room. It will usually be behind a red boss room. 

Keep in mind, there are a few caves that don't have a green room inside of them. In that case, you will need to find another surface chunk (or even other region) with caves and explore that one.

[Martyn van Buren]

This seem to confuse quite a few people --- maybe it would be clearer if the wording was changed to "reach the second cave system" instead of "reach depth two"?

[tigersfan]

This seem to confuse quite a few people --- maybe it would be clearer if the wording was changed to "reach the second cave system" instead of "reach depth two"?

Actually, I like that idea alot, as the wording is confusing. Would you mind dropping that in Mantis?

[shadow9d9]

Next question then.  It appeared to me that I was doing the same unlocks over and over.  In other words, kill 40 skeletons would show up as an achievement.. but it would happen again once I killed another 40(just made up that set for example).  What happens if you do the same one multiple times?

I'll have to look again to see if there is a list of ones you need to do to unlock the next set... I assume there is. 

[Toll]

You shouldn't be able to do the same unlock more than once. However, some things might have the same action in different amounts; for instance, there are lots of unlocks that revolve around doing missions.

[tigersfan]

Next question then.  It appeared to me that I was doing the same unlocks over and over.  In other words, kill 40 skeletons would show up as an achievement.. but it would happen again once I killed another 40(just made up that set for example).  What happens if you do the same one multiple times?

I'll have to look again to see if there is a list of ones you need to do to unlock the next set... I assume there is.

If you find this happening for sure, please let us know in Mantis. That shouldn't be happening.

[KDR_11k]

This seem to confuse quite a few people --- maybe it would be clearer if the wording was changed to "reach the second cave system" instead of "reach depth two"?

That sounds like the second surface chunk with a cave system.

[Martyn van Buren]

Yeah that's true. There must be a way of making it clearer but I am not sure what it is.  Anyway, I'll mantis the issue as a general problem.

[Coppermantis]

Perhaps "reach the second level underground dungeon?" or something else?

[zebramatt]

I'm inclined to suggest that it simply be made more obvious which level you are currently at, at all times.

If an indicator constantly reminded you that you were a Depth 1 then you wouldn't get confused by the text as-is.

Although you might assume there was a bug until you found the path down deeper...

[Martyn van Buren]

Posted something about this on Mantis < http://www.arcengames.com/mantisbt/view.php?id=6990 > and we came up with a suggestion to change the unlock description to "....Note that this is referring to entire cave systems on the region map, not to individual rooms inside the first cave system.  Look inside rooms highlighted green on the dungeon map for entrances to lower cave systems."  Does that make sense to people?

[shadow9d9]

Posted something about this on Mantis < http://www.arcengames.com/mantisbt/view.php?id=6990 > and we came up with a suggestion to change the unlock description to "....Note that this is referring to entire cave systems on the region map, not to individual rooms inside the first cave system.  Look inside rooms highlighted green on the dungeon map for entrances to lower cave systems."  Does that make sense to people?

Kind of.  I'd say to keep it even simpler.  "Some green rooms in the underground dungeons will lead you to lower levels of the dungeons."

Btw, currently tier 1 enemies are in the first level, level 2s in tier 2, etc.  When your continent moves to Tier 2, does this increase each level by 1 so that the first area of the dungeon is 2, then 3, then 4?