Q & A

[c4sc4]

Is it intentional that bat form gets no protection from cold? Admittedly, it doesn't state that you retain the use of your cold suit, but it does state you can "do everything as normal" which sort of implied that. I'm glad I wasn't on low HP when I tried it! If it is intentional, perhaps a little note in the tooltip? I think something that can kill you in a few seconds is probably worth a little warning.

Very much so, they didn't want the bat usable in the Lava Flats. I still would like to be able to transmogrify into an ice bat but that idea got shot down.

[BobTheJanitor]

Very much so, they didn't want the bat usable in the Lava Flats. I still would like to be able to transmogrify into an ice bat but that idea got shot down.

Ah, that makes sense. I'd vote yes on an ice bat option as well. Still, at least a little tooltip update. I guess it's the kind of mistake you only make once, though.

[x4000]

Is it intentional that bat form gets no protection from cold? Admittedly, it doesn't state that you retain the use of your cold suit, but it does state you can "do everything as normal" which sort of implied that. I'm glad I wasn't on low HP when I tried it! If it is intentional, perhaps a little note in the tooltip? I think something that can kill you in a few seconds is probably worth a little warning.

Yep, it's intended, but that's a good one for mantis on the tooltip.

[syndicatedragon]

Is it normal for a lvl 2 boss to have 2,700 hp? There are 2 of them in this room! Are you supposed to be able to defeat them at lvl 1?

I've been having trouble getting XP. This boss is the first thing I've found, and I see no realistic way to defeat them.

[x4000]

Is it normal for a lvl 2 boss to have 2,700 hp? There are 2 of them in this room! Are you supposed to be able to defeat them at lvl 1?

I've been having trouble getting XP. This boss is the first thing I've found, and I see no realistic way to defeat them.

There should only be one boss there.  Can you post a mantis issue for this?  That is a bug I have heard about, but I haven't had a world file.  If you can zip your world folder with you in that room with the two bosses, I can fix it.  Thanks!

[c4sc4]

Is it normal for a lvl 2 boss to have 2,700 hp? There are 2 of them in this room! Are you supposed to be able to defeat them at lvl 1?

I've been having trouble getting XP. This boss is the first thing I've found, and I see no realistic way to defeat them.

Yes, that level of hp is normal. An by two of them, are they the pair of boss bats underground or what type of boss are you fighting where there are two.

As to being able to defeat a level 2 boss at level 1, yes you should be able to do it but it will be more difficult that fighting bosses that are equal in level to you.

As for getting exp, you can get it by setting up windshelters (manually, not by using npcs), using spellbooks (find them in libraries and studies inside of houses, these rooms show up yellow on the dungeon map) or by fighting bosses.

[arcee]

I see no realistic way to defeat them.

Throw rocks.  I don't remember exactly how big my 2 L2 bosses at level 1 'Master Hero' were, but that worked ok, with some fireball/ice cross for knockback.

Q: What do the *s on the overworld map mean?

Q: Is it normal for a cave entrance to be under water? (Fortunately the next cave was _not_ entirely flooded, but it did make it hard to find).  For that matter, you can come out into water, or in midair and fall into water.  all normal?

Q: can you rescue people that you find in the caves, or do you have to go home and send somebody else?

[syndicatedragon]

There should only be one boss there.  Can you post a mantis issue for this?  That is a bug I have heard about, but I haven't had a world file.  If you can zip your world folder with you in that room with the two bosses, I can fix it.  Thanks!

Will do. edit- link

Yes, that level of hp is normal. An by two of them, are they the pair of boss bats underground or what type of boss are you fighting where there are two.

Yeah, they look like giant bats.

[c4sc4]

Q: What do the *s on the overworld map mean?

Means ther is a windstorm occuring in that region

Q: Is it normal for a cave entrance to be under water? (Fortunately the next cave was _not_ entirely flooded, but it did make it hard to find).  For that matter, you can come out into water, or in midair and fall into water.  all normal?

Yes and yes. Or at least I think it is on the second part. I think this happens when the entrance you came through doesn't have a surface directly below it so you just fall until you get to a surface.

Q: can you rescue people that you find in the caves, or do you have to go home and send somebody else?

The only way to rescue people is by using you npcs to migrate them back to a settlement.

[c4sc4]

Yes, that level of hp is normal. An by two of them, are they the pair of boss bats underground or what type of boss are you fighting where there are two.

Yeah, they look like giant bats.

Do they emit darkness around them? If so these bat bosses that you fight underground are suppose to spawn two of them.

[syndicatedragon]

Do they emit darkness around them? If so these bat bosses that you fight underground are suppose to spawn two of them.

Huh. That seems... weird. How do you know there's supposed to be two? Anyway, it seems pretty much impossible to beat right now so I guess I'll move on.

[c4sc4]

Do they emit darkness around them? If so these bat bosses that you fight underground are suppose to spawn two of them.

Huh. That seems... weird. How do you know there's supposed to be two? Anyway, it seems pretty much impossible to beat right now so I guess I'll move on.

I was an alpha tester, that's how I know that two bat bosses should spawn at a time.

Also, it was in the alpha release notes

Added the first underground miniboss, the Giant Shadow Bat.

    * The shadow bat is the first enemy that is able to emit an aura of darkness, which literally counteracts the effects of light sources near it.
    * They also have the first vampiric attack, which heals them the amount of damage they do to enemies.

[Nalgas]

Q: What do the *s on the overworld map mean?

Elaborating on what c4sc4 said, it does mean that there is a windstorm there, because it's outside of the protection of your wind shelter network.  The regions without asterisks are "safe" because they're near settlements/wind shelters/roads, while the ones farther away are marked with asterisks to let you know that they are affected by windstorms if you enter them.  The practical consequence of that in-game is that it reduces visibility and increases the strength of enemies.

[syndicatedragon]

I was an alpha tester, that's how I know that two bat bosses should spawn at a time.

Any idea WHY there are two them? It seems like that's not normal for a boss encounter? It makes it very, very difficult and frustrating.

[c4sc4]

I was an alpha tester, that's how I know that two bat bosses should spawn at a time.

Any idea WHY there are two them? It seems like that's not normal for a boss encounter? It makes it very, very difficult and frustrating.

Might have helped if I quoted the right part of the log.

    * Put in something where the amount of EXP granted from killing a boss can now be set to a percentage of the normal amount per boss.
          o The giant shadow bats now grant 50% the EXP of other bosses.

    * Put in some logic where now multiple copies of a boss can be seeded in miniboss situations.
          o The giant shadow bats now spawn 2 of themselves rather than 1.

The shadow bats are weaker than regular minibosses so they give half the exp that a normal one does so two of them spawn.

Also, I was actually able to beat them with the world file you put on mantis. It took a couple of potions and a lot of jumping around to avoid them. You can try to target them off screen while running away from them by using the location of their health bars to aim.