Author Topic: Overlord: What am I doing wrong?  (Read 1234 times)

Offline Nypyren

  • Newbie Mark II
  • *
  • Posts: 12
Overlord: What am I doing wrong?
« on: March 24, 2012, 05:22:50 pm »
I've got several tier 5 spells, killed all of the lieutenants, and made it to the Overlord's room.  No matter how much firepower I lay into him, he regenerates it immediately.

I tried returning to the settlement and cranking the difficulty down, but I still can't make a dent in him.

What am I missing?

Offline freykin

  • Jr. Member Mark II
  • **
  • Posts: 69
Re: Overlord: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 05:42:37 pm »
If he's regenerating it immediately, that sounds like a bug to me. I've fought one so far, and while he was regening, it was around the rate of 1 hp a second, and this was back when they had millions of hp and you were hitting for tens of thousands.

Is it the skelebot or draconite overlord?

Offline Nypyren

  • Newbie Mark II
  • *
  • Posts: 12
Re: Overlord: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 06:28:02 pm »
Skelebot overlord, on the first continent.  When I turned it down to minimum difficulty, he has a total HP of around 7000.  Doesn't sound like too big of a problem at first.  I do 300-400ish damage a shot with T5 Energy Pulse and something equally impressive with T5 Miasma Whip.

He literally regenerates faster than I can hurt him when I spam both attacks at the same time.  I can't think of anything else to use on him.

It's a bummer since I really want to see the new region types on the next continents.

(Edit for more accurate numbers)

He has 7807 HP.
Energy Pulse 5 does 322 damage on his body or 644 on his face.
Miasha Whip 5 does 227 damage on his body or 457 on his face.

In one second he regenerated from 6249 to 7030.  My DPS is not high enough to get him lower than that before I run out of mana (I have 606 maximum mana).

I'm going to add this to Mantis for now.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 06:35:19 pm by Nypyren »

Offline x4000

  • Chris McElligott Park, Arcen Founder and Lead Dev
  • Arcen Staff
  • Zenith Council Member Mark III
  • *****
  • Posts: 31,651
Re: Overlord: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2012, 06:35:56 pm »
Holy cow!  Skelebot overlords are not supposed to have regen anymore!  That's definitely a bug, and no wonder it's impossible.  Whoah, thanks for finding that one.  :o
Have ideas or bug reports for one of our games?  Mantis for Suggestions and Bug Reports. Thanks for helping to make our games better!

Offline x4000

  • Chris McElligott Park, Arcen Founder and Lead Dev
  • Arcen Staff
  • Zenith Council Member Mark III
  • *****
  • Posts: 31,651
Re: Overlord: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 06:39:13 pm »
Can you post a save of this, actually?  I think this is an old-world syndrome thing.  We did remove the regen from them, but apparently overlords that existed prior to the regen removal instead got super-regen.
Have ideas or bug reports for one of our games?  Mantis for Suggestions and Bug Reports. Thanks for helping to make our games better!

Offline keith.lamothe

  • Arcen Games Staff
  • Arcen Staff
  • Zenith Council Member Mark III
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,505
Re: Overlord: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 06:49:11 pm »
Yea, I just repurposed the old skelebot regen for the draconite mission, since I figure nobody was using it anymore :)  If you like you can just set that particular condition to do nothing or automatically remove itself, and we can add a new one for draconites.
Have ideas or bug reports for one of our games? Mantis for Suggestions and Bug Reports. Thanks for helping to make our games better!

Offline x4000

  • Chris McElligott Park, Arcen Founder and Lead Dev
  • Arcen Staff
  • Zenith Council Member Mark III
  • *****
  • Posts: 31,651
Re: Overlord: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 07:02:38 pm »
I just added a fix to the mantis issue that was posted about this: http://www.arcengames.com/mantisbt/view.php?id=6813

Yea, I just repurposed the old skelebot regen for the draconite mission, since I figure nobody was using it anymore :)  If you like you can just set that particular condition to do nothing or automatically remove itself, and we can add a new one for draconites.

I just added a field for that one that says "if not in starting conditions, then remove from entity."  Worked like a charm, and then no need to have another DeprecatedDoNotRemove item, heh.

Have ideas or bug reports for one of our games?  Mantis for Suggestions and Bug Reports. Thanks for helping to make our games better!

Offline keith.lamothe

  • Arcen Games Staff
  • Arcen Staff
  • Zenith Council Member Mark III
  • *****
  • Posts: 19,505
Re: Overlord: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 07:03:34 pm »
Ah yes, that is much cleaner :)
Have ideas or bug reports for one of our games? Mantis for Suggestions and Bug Reports. Thanks for helping to make our games better!