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Offline BobTheJanitor

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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2012, 10:57:40 am »
Hey if we're complaining about instadeath, can I complain that a mini-boss wisp did 600 damage to me in a couple seconds? I was in a windstorm, and I was storm dashing when I was caught in its gravity field but that stopped me storm dashing so I assume it should have stopped me taking extra storm dash related damage. That said, how much damage should a wisp boss in a windstorm put out? (It was in a swamp tile as well, so by the time I figured out where the yellow-brown wisp even was on the yellow-brown background, I was dead.)
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2012, 11:06:15 am »
I was under the impression that windstorms no longer buff monsters, but drain your health instead?
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2012, 11:22:13 am »
Oh, I see. Well I wasn't sure on that. I've been around for too many changes in this game to keep it all straight. So now I'm even more confused...
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2012, 11:24:37 am »
But to answer your question: Since there is no hit recovery in AVWW, if you manage to get stuck adjacent to an enemy, expect to get pasted in literally seconds. If you cannot be knocked back (near a wall or similar), you will die pretty much instantly due to taking 200+ hits in the time frame of a second.
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2012, 11:27:12 am »
Quote from: Moonshine Fox on July 11, 2012, 11:24:37 am
But to answer your question: Since there is no hit recovery in AVWW, if you manage to get stuck adjacent to an enemy, expect to get pasted in literally seconds. If you cannot be knocked back (near a wall or similar), you will die pretty much instantly due to taking 200+ hits in the time frame of a second.
I thought that a specific entity could only hit another specific entity once a second.

That's why stuff like tidal pulse doesn't insta-gib overlords.
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2012, 11:28:53 am »
Quote from: keith.lamothe on July 11, 2012, 11:27:12 am
Quote from: Moonshine Fox on July 11, 2012, 11:24:37 am
But to answer your question: Since there is no hit recovery in AVWW, if you manage to get stuck adjacent to an enemy, expect to get pasted in literally seconds. If you cannot be knocked back (near a wall or similar), you will die pretty much instantly due to taking 200+ hits in the time frame of a second.
I thought that a specific entity could only hit another specific entity once a second.

That's why stuff like tidal pulse doesn't insta-gib overlords.
That might be so. If that's the case, then we have entity-specific hit recovery. Which makes sense, of course. Though I am slightly disappointed in the fact that you've pre-nerfed our insta-overlord-gibbing pulse of dewm.
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2012, 11:30:34 am »
Quote from: Moonshine Fox on July 11, 2012, 11:28:53 am
Though I am slightly disappointed in the fact that you've pre-nerfed our insta-overlord-gibbing pulse of dewm.
Oh if you want that just dump about 20 of those mossy barrels you like so much on the floor and drop an explosive bear trap in the middle of them and bait the overlord over.  Fun for the whole family.
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2012, 11:31:41 am »
Quote from: keith.lamothe on July 11, 2012, 11:30:34 am
Quote from: Moonshine Fox on July 11, 2012, 11:28:53 am
Though I am slightly disappointed in the fact that you've pre-nerfed our insta-overlord-gibbing pulse of dewm.
Oh if you want that just dump about 20 of those mossy barrels you like so much on the floor and drop an explosive bear trap in the middle of them and bait the overlord over.  Fun for the whole family.
Including me. :D
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2012, 11:46:41 am »
Quote from: keith.lamothe on July 11, 2012, 11:27:12 am
I thought that a specific entity could only hit another specific entity once a second.

That's why stuff like tidal pulse doesn't insta-gib overlords.

So do wisps do 300 dps?

Edit: Miniboss wisps that is
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2012, 11:47:52 am »
Was there anything else around? Wisp shots maybe? I've never fought wisps (as far as I'm aware), so it's possible you got hit by a bunch of shots (each eligable to hit you once a second)? Maybe? I don't know how that particular thing works.
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2012, 12:09:59 pm »
A couple other monsters, but my log said all 600 damage was from the one named mini-boss thing. Otherwise there were some wind damage ticks and a couple shots from an esper or something, but that wasn't the big blam that ended that adventurer.
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2012, 12:36:06 pm »
Did that 600 damage thing have a similar (x35) as mine had or was it literally ONE 600 damage hit?
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2012, 12:43:37 pm »
That I don't recall, unfortunately. I kind of wish I had just screenshotted it at the time, now. I don't think it did, but I wouldn't be prepared to swear that before a federal court.
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2012, 01:22:52 pm »
Quote from: BobTheJanitor on July 11, 2012, 12:43:37 pm
That I don't recall, unfortunately. I kind of wish I had just screenshotted it at the time, now. I don't think it did, but I wouldn't be prepared to swear that before a federal court.

What about a state court?
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Re: Major source of "Not fun!" (Instadeath)
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2012, 01:47:12 pm »
Maybe night court.
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