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Offline Professor Paul1290

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How do you usually freeroam in this game?
« on: April 26, 2012, 07:29:53 pm »
I wanted to get a picture of how most people go around in this game outside of missions.



Here's how I usually think of it.

I think of as "effective" exploration in A Valley Without Wind is that you get as much done per trip out in the world as possible.

It starts with the items I'm looking for. I think of these items as one of a few categories:
-Stash Supplies: These include upgrade stones, platforms, crates, lights, and other things you typically find in yellow stash rooms.
-Common Cave Items: These are things like granite, copper, quartz, and other items typically found in most caves.
-Blue Room Items: These include things like clay, consciousness shards, enchant containers and other items that are collected from ordinary blue rooms.
-Regional Surface Items: These are surface items that occur in specific regions such as plums, cherries, wood, and others.
-Regional Cave Items: These are various gems and such that are used to make spells. They tend to occur in specific regions and tend to be guarded by bosses.
-Secret Missions: These are missions hidden in the world that allow you to rescue NPCs and acquire buildings and spell materials.
-Unlocks: These are like achievements with purpose. Some unlocks require you to go to certain buildings or places to meet their criteria.

Stash Supplies, Common Cave Items, and Blue Room Items do not typically determine where I go. These are targets of opportunity that I take on the way to more important items, and usually only if I need them. These items are common enough that I only go out specifically to get them if I'm very low and need them immediately, which does happen occasionally but not too often.
I usually regard these as "secondary objectives".

Regional Cave Items, Regional Surface Items, Secret Missions, and Unlocks are generally what I go out specifically for and the serve as "destinations" for most of my trips. These are either region specific or, in the case of Secret Missions, are often very important and situational. Most of my trips end at these items, with more common items picked up along the way.
I usually regard these as "primary objectives".

I think of buildings as a few different categories:
-Small/Shacks: These are, well, shacks.
-Medium/Houses: These are houses and building of similar size.
-Large/Big Houses/Towers: Bigger houses, lava towers, and ice age buildings.
-Ruins: This tends to include Pyramids, and anything with the word "ruins" in the name.
-Windmills: Self-explanatory. These are found in Grasslands

I usually consider shacks to be very low priority. They maybe have one or two rooms, and maybe a stash room. I usually don't enter these unless I need a stash item immediately.

Houses and Large Buildings are usually what I go to for stash supplies and blue room items. They're fairly common and I tend to get enough stash supplies and blue room items from then on the way.
Still I usually only go into these if I'm low on a stash supply or a blue room item. I also don't usually go into non-hallway or stash rooms unless I need consciousness shards.

Ruins have "Maze Rooms" which are huge and take a long time to navigate. Because of this I usually don't enter them. The exception to this is when I need a lot of Enchant Containers or want to find a Puzzle Room, because these are the best places to find those.

I consider Windmills to be unique, as they seem to have the highest concentration of stash supplies of any building. If you run low on some stash supply and need a lot of them fast, these buildings are a godsend.


Anyway, that's usually how I handle running around outside of missions.

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Re: How do you usually freeroam in this game?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 07:36:43 pm »
I'd have to say Paul in general I agree with you.  However, one thing I do differently is purposely go to junkyards to hit a few dozen shacks in a row.  They're incredibly fast to raid when you need stones, almost as good as a windmill run.  They tend to clump together and, while you'll occassionally find an empty surface, are pretty numerous.
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Offline mrhanman

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Re: How do you usually freeroam in this game?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 10:12:30 pm »
When I decide that I need item X, I do the following:

1.  Go to a chunk of the appropriate type
2.  Forget what I was doing
3.  Screw around exploring/blasting things
4.  Suddenly recall I had something specific in mind to do
5.  Try to remember while exploring/blasting things
6.  Stumble upon item X while exploring/blasting things
7.  Go back to the settlement to heal/craft
8.  Repeat

This seems to be the most effective "plan" I've come up with so far.

Offline Bluddy

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Re: How do you usually freeroam in this game?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 10:17:58 pm »
When I decide that I need item X, I do the following:

1.  Go to a chunk of the appropriate type
2.  Forget what I was doing
3.  Screw around exploring/blasting things
4.  Suddenly recall I had something specific in mind to do
5.  Try to remember while exploring/blasting things
6.  Stumble upon item X while exploring/blasting things
7.  Go back to the settlement to heal/craft
8.  Repeat

This seems to be the most effective "plan" I've come up with so far.

This is my planning style too. Hey it sort of works!

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Re: How do you usually freeroam in this game?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2012, 10:20:10 pm »
When I decide that I need item X, I do the following:

1.  Go to a chunk of the appropriate type
2.  Forget what I was doing
3.  Screw around exploring/blasting things
4.  Suddenly recall I had something specific in mind to do
5.  Try to remember while exploring/blasting things
6.  Stumble upon item X while exploring/blasting things
7.  Go back to the settlement to heal/craft
8.  Repeat

This seems to be the most effective "plan" I've come up with so far.

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Offline Coppermantis

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Re: How do you usually freeroam in this game?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2012, 10:29:51 pm »
Yeah, same, I'll say "Hey, I need X which is in Y chunk" so I go there and then notice a secret mission or some other thing of interest then get totally sidetracked.
I can already tell this is going to be a roller coaster ride of disappointment.

Offline Martyn van Buren

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Re: How do you usually freeroam in this game?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2012, 11:28:28 pm »
That, very much so. I've played quite a lot of this game and so far made it to no overlords and only one lieutenant. And that was back when there were pylons and exp.

Offline Drjones013

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Re: How do you usually freeroam in this game?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2012, 12:45:47 am »
I've been completely wandering around at random, just taking the world in and checking out sectors. Killed a lieutenant (not sure if he's actually dead, though), have probably put in 6 or so hours and am nowhere close to beating the first continent.

It's been ***really*** hard for me to figure out the game while writing and getting ready for finals.

Offline Terraziel

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Re: How do you usually freeroam in this game?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2012, 06:19:04 am »
I'm definitely in the "go to a region and then forget what the hell you were doing" camp, it happens most when I am running away in the ocean shallows whilst looking for, well, anything, where it is more of:

"I am getting out of this hellhole"
*leaves to world map*
"Why was I here in the first place....oh right."
*Begrudgingly goes back*"

The only place I ever go for stash items and enchant containers is Lava Towers, they contain huge amounts of both, anything upto ?8? stashes per building with enchant containers in every room because they are all "Evil" Rooms.

I think the major personal quirk in my play is that I emphasise secret missions a lot, Once I hit tier 2 or 3 I generally explore any given region until I have found the almost inevitable surface secret mission, and explored any cave systems down to the first secret mission. This way I can quickly warp gate around looking for any rewards i might want and have a reasonable chance of actually getting them.