[FILLED] Looking for artist(s) to develop new style for A Valley Without Wind.

[Ulrox]

@ Nanashi, you've made 2 flamebaits in this discussion insofar, do you really want to continue?

[Misery]

@Misery

Firstly, I'm quoting him verbatim. It's up to him to explain his own intent rather than have you white knight for him.

Secondly, I wasn't swearing AT him, I was doing so for emphasis. If you can't handle the word "Bloody", then don't use it. Criticising someone else's choice of words is equally petty and judgmental.

Thirdly, you have a really annoying and aggravating habit of adding your own 2 cents into every single discussion which doesn't concern yourself. Could you please refrain from soliciting your own opinion if it isn't asked for?

I'll do no such thing. I dont expect people to agree with me on everything.  But I'll speak out as I see fit; to do otherwise would be to go against my nature.   

.....and it seems I was right about what he meant, as he JUST SAID SO.  So the anger was over nothing, really.....   Maybe he coulda phrased it better, allright?  I know *I* phrase things in rather idiotic ways rather often that can give people the wrong impression about what I'm trying to say.  Regardless, there's no call to yell at him, or at me, or get angry, or any of that sort of thing. 

Beyond that..... I'm not arguing with you.   You can do as you please, of course, just as I tend to.   But that's it.   If you want to respond to me, or to anything here with further anger, swearing, whatever, I'll merely ignore it.    The REASON I said what I did is because there's SERIOUSLY no reason to act like that on this forum, and you probably know it.  Or at least, I hope you do.  I've seen you post here at times, you dont seem like a bad sort.

This community has been pretty darn great so far..... it really has..... and despite my usual (very) short fuse, I utterly refuse to get drawn into an arguement.   So, having said this, I'll stop on this subject now.

You understood it the way it was intended to be understood misery. Also we should probably make a seperate thread about this topic since we can probably banter about the old days (I can atleast) for many posts to come rofl

Hah, that's a good point, we're only really adding to the incredible derailment on this topic here.     Supposed to be about the game art, not about.... well..... basically everything else..... haha.   I apologize to all for adding to that, me and my tendancy to rant and ramble in random directions for no apparant reason.

[zebramatt]

Wow, that was weird.

"I think people should appreciate sound direction as much as they do visual aesthetic qualities."
"I think you should *@%! your @$%~ing $£*&, you &$%@ing £^&*%$er!"
"Hey guys, let's simmer down a little here, eh?"
"And you can %^@$$ right off, you $%&£y piece of @&$%!!"

 

[Misery]

Wow, that was weird.

"I think people should appreciate sound direction as much as they do visual aesthetic qualities."
"I think you should *@%! your @$%~ing $£*&, you &$%@ing £^&*%$er!"
"Hey guys, let's simmer down a little here, eh?"
"And you can %^@$$ right off, you $%&£y piece of @&$%!!"

 

Neh.   It's the Net, it's a forum, it happens sometimes.   

Frankly, much too often it's MY fault.  I'll ramble and rant about something or other, get carried away, and manage to insult something without really meaning to (or just manage to say something really stupid), and then everyone's all "HULK SMASH!!!! HULK NEVER STOP SMASHING!!!!!" for the next hour, as I try to creep away quietly, pretending nothing happened, wondering where it all went wrong...

.....or something like that.

And now I've blanked out and forgotten what else I was going to say.  Joy!

[Ulrox]

@Art, Studio H has a very flashbacky vibe, which is awesome, otherwise I feel like what is most important is looking at things from a financial perspective, but I get the feeling that 4000 founder extraordinare already have a good feeling for that.

@Misery, Since you cannot relate to another person through their appearance and the tone of their voice, what happens often is that people use their subconciousness instead, a place where all our greatest fears and expectations lie, and that changes a persons perspective so much that they dont grasp the true meaning behind the forum post/reddit post/ facebook post / tweet

[tigersfan]

Just a quick friendly reminder to keep it friendly guys... Thanks!

[KingIsaacLinksr]

Oiu, keep it on topic, I'm not going to read the AAA VS Indie or Visual VS audio stimulation debate in the AVWW art discussion, you could take it to the off-topic section.

Back on topic, I find the art showed off interesting thus far, but not sure which I like yet...

[keith.lamothe]

Neh.   It's the Net, it's a forum, it happens sometimes.

This forum isn't like the rest of the net, and we intend to keep it that way   I haven't read everything you've written here, but I didn't see anything objectionable by our standards here.  Aside from a case of ellipsitis contracted from excessive exposure to JRPG dialogue, perhaps

Other posts in this thread have crossed some lines, though.

To anyone in this discussion feeling even tempted to utilize a personal attack or profanity, read: this for a reminder of our approach, thanks

[LayZboy]

Yes, but local only.  So two people at one keyboard or each using a different gamepad.  Porting this one to have Internet multiplayer would be... painful.

Couch Co-op only? Could be okay I guess but I prolly won't play it without On-line Co-op.
Also lol at the idea of 2 people using 1 keyboard. Just lol.

[keith.lamothe]

Yea, online co-op doesn't fit every game.  And certainly doesn't fit every schedule

[tigersfan]

Yes, but local only.  So two people at one keyboard or each using a different gamepad.  Porting this one to have Internet multiplayer would be... painful.

Couch Co-op only? Could be okay I guess but I prolly won't play it without On-line Co-op.
Also lol at the idea of 2 people using 1 keyboard. Just lol.

You wouldn't have to both use a keyboard, one or both of you could use controllers. That said, with this particular game internet co-op would be challenging. It's likely that with everything we do, if there is enough player support and interest, it could possibly get added later, but as we learned with AVWW, the later you try to add in co-op, the harder it is, so don't expect it early.

[x4000]

In terms of two people playing on one keyboard, that's how my wife and I have played many games.  It's actually something that was really common in the 80's and 90's, so it doesn't seem strange to me at all.  Demon Stalkers, Gauntlet, Lode Runner, etc, all used this mechanic.  That said, just having two controllers makes that moot anyhow.

With regard to online co-op, that would add months to the release schedule and significantly add to the cost of doing the project.  The project basically isn't feasible in any reasonable timeframe with online co-op, so for anyone who doesn't like local co-op they can think of it as a single player game.  But if demand were high for online co-op, and the game was popular, it could be something we could add later as free DLC or a paid expansion (depending on just how well the game was doing without it).

My experience has been that only about 30% at most of players seem to play even AI War multiplayer, so while that's a healthy good number and particularly representative of people online in forums, it's not the majority of the people who buy games.

[x4000]

More on topic, here is the painterly mockup from studio K (who you might remember was originally doing the pixelart work).  Their work here is a bit delayed because I originally had them chasing pixelart work rather than painterly, of course, and then their artists were sick.  I don't have ideas on total cost with this particular style with them yet, so I don't know how they compete with that.

But my take on the quality of the mockup itself is... holy cow that's awesome.

[mrhanman]

More on topic, here is the painterly mockup from studio K (who you might remember was originally doing the pixelart work).  Their work here is a bit delayed because I originally had them chasing pixelart work rather than painterly, of course, and then their artists were sick.  I don't have ideas on total cost with this particular style with them yet, so I don't know how they compete with that.

But my take on the quality of the mockup itself is... holy cow that's awesome.

[BobTheJanitor]

Wow, I want to play that game.