Author Topic: [FILLED] Looking for artist(s) to develop new style for A Valley Without Wind.  (Read 159204 times)

Offline Bluddy

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I'll be really sad to see the current art style go away. An artist going over what you have now and making small changes could really make this work. Too bad.

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I'll be really sad to see the current art style go away. An artist going over what you have now and making small changes could really make this work. Too bad.

You may well get your wish.  If the kickstarter isn't funded, then we'd probably try to punt and do something along those lines.
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Offline eRe4s3r

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I think instead of decartoonizing it has to become more anime ;)

(my little modification)

1) Flattened head shading
2) added 1 px more head border (black)
3) removed head-bob
4) replaced white highlight by light grey highlight (smooth gradients..)
« Last Edit: July 02, 2012, 04:40:45 pm by eRe4s3r »
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I personally would not like an anime-styled AVWW. Just my personal preference, I have nothing against anime specifically but I don't find it an attractive style for games.
I can already tell this is going to be a roller coaster ride of disappointment.

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I think the edit there looks really good. The black bit above the head looks sort of strange but maybe it'd look different against a real background.

It looks promising to me. :)

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Hmhhh, I guess i could just have made the head that 1 px larger, i only did that because the eye brows needed 1 px extra space to fit right ;p

At this resolution the art style is bound for at least pseudo western anime style and there is no way around that. Whether you do eyes 1px or 2px large makes no difference to me, and that is the only thing I meant with Anime style ;P

Personally, I want a character that looks like my avatar ,p

Anyway, here is another variation(s) only the eyes change between the 2,p
« Last Edit: July 02, 2012, 06:28:57 pm by eRe4s3r »
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Personally, I want a character that looks like my avatar ,p
+1

I never expect it to happen here, but all my most-favorite game art styles are anime-ish.
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I'm not sure what a westernised style in this format would look like. Flashback, maybe? Or I guess perhaps what it looks like now.

Flashback did look really fantastic at the time, but a lot of that was its incredible animations.

On the last two Darrens, I sort of like the top one. The bottom one looks a bit vacant. :P Though in the same way, the top one looks a bit unimpressed. :)

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Not a lot of possibility for facial expressions for this resolution and head size ;p Though maybe the nose or mouth are in the wrong position or have wrong transition, I am not exactly a professional when it comes to expressions (nor pixel art) ,p

Good animation could play with the facial expressions too ^^
« Last Edit: July 02, 2012, 07:12:43 pm by eRe4s3r »
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On the last two Darrens, I sort of like the top one. The bottom one looks a bit vacant. :P Though in the same way, the top one looks a bit unimpressed. :)

Of course he's unimpressed.

"Hah!  Did you guys see those last seven glyphbearers?  All died to overlords and strange traps!  I won't let that happen, I'll be the one to save the village!"

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@Mr Park: Thanks for understanding and not doing the squishy textures thing. It makes life for us modders really -freaking- difficult.

edit: This has been gnawing away at me for some time, but I'd like people to realise that using dismissive terms like "animu" (which is used entirely to mock or in an otherwise derogatory fashion) is REALLY freaking disrespectful to the artist, considering that he hasn't even been contracted officially.

Art is subjective and it is impossible to satisfy everyone no matter which style you use. As an amateur artist myself, I can tell you that it's not easy to create drawn art and it requires a lot of investment of emotional effort. A little consideration for the feelings of others would be nice.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2012, 12:24:33 am by Nanashi »

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I don't think it's intended to mock the artist, just anime culture in general. And for that matter, I don't think anyone is really mocking it, it's more playful joking. It's hard to find a group of people discussing anything on an internet forum (i.e. nerds) that's not full of current or past anime fans. And even there, I'm not saying nerds to try and actively upset anyone. It's just a joke, and part of the age old tradition of co-opting terms that could be or once were used as insults and making them your own in order to take the legs out from under them. In the whole world of fandom, most 'insulting' terms are probably going to be jokes. When you get right down to it, none of us have the right to look down on anyone.

(Except furries)

Edit: It was a joke please stop hitting me
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I agree, I doubt anyone here would be mocking that sort of thing.

I generally like an anime artstyle for games (depending on the specific artstyle, as sometimes I'll find one I really just think looks stupid)

But I wouldnt want it for this game for one simple reason:  It's been WAAAAAYYYYYYY overdone everywhere else.   I've said before that this game has a unique ambiance that most games lack, and that, to me, would kill it.

Also, what I think of as "westernized anime", ehhhh.... it always just looks a bit off to me.  It's hard to pinpoint just why, but it does.  Obviously it depends on the artist, but in most cases I cant honestly say I like it much.

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I don't think it's intended to mock the artist, just anime culture in general. And for that matter, I don't think anyone is really mocking it, it's more playful joking. It's hard to find a group of people discussing anything on an internet forum (i.e. nerds) that's not full of current or past anime fans. And even there, I'm not saying nerds to try and actively upset anyone. It's just a joke, and part of the age old tradition of co-opting terms that could be or once were used as insults and making them your own in order to take the legs out from under them. In the whole world of fandom, most 'insulting' terms are probably going to be jokes. When you get right down to it, none of us have the right to look down on anyone.

(Except furries)

Edit: It was a joke please stop hitting me

I'd rather have him speak for himself. I'm referring to the comment
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"Why is the 3rd ones head animu style, and the other two have tiny heads."
and not the later discussions about anime.

Even if you take the term "Animu" as a joke - what's being made fun of? The laughter is at the expense of the artist or at the anime culture. I could go more in-depth onto why it's a retarded thing to say (is Archie anime? That and golden age comics with exaggerated proportions have been around longer than the entire history of animation in Japan.), but that's besides the point. The comment was at best a malicious attempt at being facetious.

There's petty criticism and there's constructive or supportive criticism. The difference is often a matter of attitude. When giving criticism to someone else's work, I believe there's a modicum of responsibility that you have to shoulder.

Edit: I know it's a very sensitive topic around me because I believe it's innately wrong to solicit your own criticism unless you're friends with the artist, it's asked for, or you express it tactfully. You can speak personally and say "This is what I like" - but for me, that above comment is tantamount to saying "Your art sucks" (and providing no useful detail whatsoever). It hurts, especially on a professional level.

This is why I prefer the modding culture, because the only person you're obliged to satisfy is yourself (and maybe the people you care about). If you have gripes with someone's art, mod the art yourself for yourself. (Of course, this is harder to apply on the professional level, which is why I find that criticism painful.)
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I use the term "Animu" just as the best way to describe things a lot of the time, not to disrespect in anyway. I mean I would be fine with the head being how it is in the third one.


Also, I was the one on Skype who explained it to LayZboy that I told him about the pictures. I did not mean it in any offence by it though or even as a joke really. Just the first thing which came into my head when I saw it. Plus, I use the word "Animu" a lot as well to describe Anime to people because I just prefer the word really.

I mean when I said it, I didn't mean any offence by it, it's just the effects of being on the internet a lot. Don't know what LayZboy meant by it though...